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veloham

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    Thanks @clubman! I have the clincher Veloflex (‘Master’ I think off top of my head) and Criterium tubs (I think equivalent to the Master clincher but don’t quote me) and have loved both.

    Regarding those trapezium track rims, I haven’t seen many, there were a set of 28h on Ebay recently though and the shape is quite apparent. I just think the majority were the road/track version. As you say (in general) why wouldn’t you get a pair that would suit both? The set on Ebay was a very reasonable price but I didn’t buy them as I don’t ride on a track. QED :)

    I was thinking that about my Radsport decal’d rims. I’ll clean them up see how they look but might have to be for poncing around town on high days and holidays :D

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    @SideshowBob I also meant to say, I think those wheels look great! And nice colour, looking forward to seeing the frame painted.

    If you are still trying to source a seat bolt Ebay seller laterchater has some nice ones https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-TRADITIONAL­-CHROMED-FRAME-SEAT-BOLT-AND-NUT-24-mm-B­ETWEEN-EARS-LEROICA/283929145211?hash=it­em421b7eef7b:g:778AAOSwbERdSwlF

    I bought a couple of these and they look good, he also had some specifically Chater Lea seat bolts a while ago, not sure if he has any left. Very similar but a sexier nut imo :)

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    Oh I meant to say, if anyone knows the date of that Radsport ad, or any other info, I'd be very interested. I recently bought some Fiamme 32/40 on Ebay with a "RADSPORT" decal and the pre 1959 stamp. I didn't check the posting carefully enough - they do not have the double eyelet ferrule, just a single eyelet in the inside rim surface. Not sure what the deal was, if they were a cheaper version?? They seem extremely light, worryingly light!

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    @SideshowBob why have I not been following this thread! Sub'd.

    I don't think we've competed on Ebay yet, but we've definitely both been looking for the same Fiamme rims! Fiamme (and Mavic) licensed the Longhi patent in 1934 for 25 years -> 1959 (comments on the Fiamme timeline). So from ~ 1959 Fiamme would have been able to drop the "BREVETTO LONGHI", who knows if they were in a rush to do it. But that ties up with the timeline for version 2 -> 3 ~ 1959. Similarly the change in the oval decals mid 60s for version 3 -> 5, maybe that happened sooner, maybe they had a lot of stock of the "BREVETTO LONGHI" decals to run through :)

    [I don't know about Mavic, their website says the patent was licensed until 1947 but that's an odd term and the decals have "Licence Longhi / Breveté France et étranger" through the 50s - e.g. the version with "MONTLHERY" written across the diamond I think is ~ 1960.]

    As you say, it's hard to tell from the pics (similarly trying to figure out from Ebay sellers' pics) but are you sure yours are specifically 'track rims'? As far as I know the ones that don't take a brake are much more of a trapezium shape. The first ad attached is from Holdsworth Aids 1961, but there's very similar in the Ron Kitching 1955 catalogue. Other ads say the first pattern is good for 'road or track' and the trapezium shape is 'track only'. The conclusion I've got to is a lot of the period wheelsets on track bikes, or described as 'track wheels', had that first pattern and that causes confusion.

    Anyway, long story short, I say if a brake block fits and is square to the rim then you're good :)

    Regarding tubs: my view is if the bike is historically significant / you're hanging it on a wall then be as period correct as your heart desires. If you're hoping to ride around and have fun on it you don't want to be on 70 year old tyres, even if you can find them! So you'll end up finding 70s or 80s tubs that 'look period'. So why not just use modern tubs that look period :) Personally I like tan wall Veloflex - the Criterium are sick but a bit $$ (and admittedly a bit jazzy). I've also very happily used the more wallet friendly Vittoria Rally (the slightly older logo looks better than the jazzy current one) and you can get those in 25mm width (although I like the 23mm on the narrow sprints). I like the looks of the Challenge range but also $$ and I haven't tried them myself.

    Personally I'd forgive non-period for any perishables like rubber, leather, cloth, so long as it looks in keeping. A few years ago when I was being more uptight about it, a wise man said "the air in the tyres isn't from the 50s" - Flash, Hetchins website.

    If you're a member of the VCC try searching the library for 1947. There's a scan of 'Cycling Manual 1947' which is an interesting read. I've also leafed through the Cycling magazines - the ads give a good idea of what components were available / lusted after. I loved the article about Wally Summers in 'Cycling, Second Series, 1947 01 08 Jan' "One word provides the key to success on the continent. When mind and body revolt against the strain of hard riding, you must obey the call of Allez"!

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    Huh. I did have a look on one of the things I sold recently, should have looked harder! I wonder what was bid for those mudguards to get the listing pulled.

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    How does this happen if there are bids on something?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lytaloy-Mudgu­ards-Hobbs-of-Barbican-Late-1940-039-s-v­intage-/133450781503

    Not that I was going in for these, but just in general thought that once there were bids on something on Ebay it was going to the end of the auction.

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    ... and for comparison https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193459429715

    Makes me feel better about a recent run of buying something only to immediately see something nicer!

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    As far as I remember it’s the seller I bought my ROH from. I collected in person, he was a nice bloke, so hope it was him.

    If you wanted to build a Blue Riband with top class components, imo it’s not a bad price. What would a Lytaloy bb go for? At £300 I was still watching :)

    Edit: original paint premium too, although I’ve heard that gives you the justification “it’s an investment” when your partner questions you :)

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