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my maths were bit out lazily multiplying by 6 his 20st which is closer to 130 and possibly 140 for the whole system but your point is a good one.... you'd expect manufacturers weight limits to err on the side of caution and although there are a number of variables (namely uk roads, especially rural) regardless of wheel (in particular) rider/system limits I know loads of 'heavier' riders (as in 90+kg) that have problems keeping their wheels true. In fairness, most however know that decent quality, hand built and plenty of spokes is what's required but they still obsess over lighter wheels expecting a few hundred gram (well under half a percent) saving to make such a difference to their total system weight
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@withered_preacher @hugo7
now you mention it my other brother 'dabbled' with road cycling (in an attempt to keep him on the straight and narrow) and probably did 2-3k miles over a couple of years so was more than a fleeting interest. He is 6'4 and 120kg and was very well served on his Fuji Roubaix with wheels from high spoke-count solid but perfectly sound performing and decent looking wheels from Rose (not sending to UK post Brexit) so that is a good shout -
Still active but more voyeurism as life/kids/covid-life/covid-kids has got in the way of anything cycling related. He did a little cycling (by cycling I mean 5 miles gentle pootling a couple of times a week with his kids) although that was enough to pringle a set of wheels almost instantaneously when he decided to 'hop/flop' off a curb (he claims it was unusually high!). He basically bought a very very cheap used carrera hybrid (maybe a crossfire) and the tyres couldn't take the air to offer the rims any protection but a pal gave him an old mountain bike with maybe even 36 spoke rims that he's continued to use for literally a few miles along canal/river paths with his young kids. He couldn't and wouldn't.....and shouldn't (he's never going to cycle regularly or any distance I'd not have thought.)..spend hundreds on the quality kit someone of such mass would need were they to cycle regularly and with keen interest.
All the best
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Fair point and I haven't made any threat or mention of police etc but have said that it "constitutes theft but appreciate it's a busy time of year so likely an oversight but now you're aware please pay."
I asked them to wait a number of days after the expected delivery date and actually a couple past RM timescale for being 'lost' and they were reasonable and a very frequent communicator throughout which probably made me more inclined to refund but of course get you're saying.
cheers for your input and all the best
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@PhilDAS @Coops
so, an update on my case where a buyer repeatedly albeit politely messaged the second the expected delivery date of the mobile phone I sold had passed. Anyway, I refunded their payment in full and within 48 hours delivery of the item, signed for and same addressee name, was confirmed (on a Sunday with RM?) so they have the phone and their money back. I've sent messages to their eBay (a business seller with a current listing) and a text/whatsapp to the phone number on one of their eBay listings (the message has been received and they have seen WhatsApp after I sent the message. I've since sent another message saying "sure you're busy but what you're have done constitutes theft however i'm sure this is an oversight on your part but now you've been made aware of it please pay for the item - sent personal payment details - or return the item....nothingIt's 'only' £90 but I can't really afford to lose it - although it wouldn't be crippling - but it's more the principle of the matter and that they were so prompt and conscientious in their correspondence up until the second I refunded the item....is this an actual scam do you reckon, seems weird, whereby they refuse delivery wait for refund then collect for example?
could/should I threaten to and then actually call 101 (non-emergency police)? Should I do this or do I just have to suck it up and accept that I made myself vulnerable by 'doing the right thing'?
(Up)hill-hater who is new to the cycling world (love at first ride) and trying to make up for lost time by immersion in trying different models, materials, building, buying and selling different bits (hopefully without losing too much money) until I settle on a few things that really suit me in different circumstances.