Its fine, not utterly incredible, but fine. I find the whole laser thing kind of a pain. I dont want to have to do it, especially on the rear end. Qr/horizantal dropout frames are fine, But Thru axle takes a bunch of fuckery to make sure the axle is square, Its very easy to have a not straight enough rear end unless youre super careful. Same goes for the seat tube holding thing. So yeah, its not awful, im glad i have something to build with, but it can be painful. At some point i will just build a proper one with extrusion and al like my first one, but i dont have access to a mill atm. Just need to find a bigger workshop, and money for a mill.