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  • That would be a bit extreme on fixed. I confess to having only ridden around there a handful of times but would be up for helping scout out potential routes.

  • I'm up for a N.Yorks trip and a minibus would give us much more flexibility especially with the 4 bike limit on Virgin train. If we do stick to trains and there's any interest in the Lakes though I've had a quick stab at a couple of routes. Trains to Oxenholme are direct from Euston and take 2h51. An advance return is around £60 before any railcard/groupsave discounts.

    Suggestion 1: https://www.komoot.com/tour/93413832?ref­=wtd
    Both routes include Kirkstone Pass, Grasmere (gingerbread) and the cable chain ferry across Windermere. Highlights on this one are Aira Force waterfall, Thirlmere and Dunmail Raise, downsides are a few short sections on A-roads (3 miles the longest) and if the weather is bad there's longer sections that are very exposed and would be bleak as fuck.

    Suggestion 2: https://www.komoot.com/tour/93480683/zoo­m
    Highlights are descending 'the Struggle', the east side of Coniston and Grizedale Forest. Downsides are descending 'the Struggle' and though it's a much less exposed route it's still going to be grim if the weather is shit.

    I aimed for similar overall length/climbing to the Peaks route however both the above routes only have one really long climb. I've also tried to avoid the ridiculous gradients that are about, there's one climb (Red Bank, after Grasmere) on both routes which may need a short walk but I think would be doable given dry roads and enough commitment. That said if people do fancy some more serious climbing there are plenty of options.

  • Owning to the principle that two days of riding are better than one, why not stay overnight and do both? The Harder Weekend In The Lakes or something like that.

    Also very keen on some minibus action.

  • Minibus is a great idea. I'm on said Virgin train to Kendal at the moment to do the Fred route and a man has just thrown his bike on top of mine, scratching the paintwork.

  • I'd be keen to join in on this. Logistics are good for Manchester - Oxenholme

  • Googled this, looks interesting and hard. Love to know how you got on.

  • I'd say 80% of the route has fantastic scenery and Kirkstone, Burn Edge and Whinlatter definitely doable fixed.

    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/39907877

    Wrynose is a pig, especially 150km into a ride.

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