Russian invasion of Ukraine

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  • That 40 mile convoy on the news this morning is a massive sitting duck isn't it? Surely there must be loads of ambushes set up and they will be operating drone strikes to slow it down?

  • The Peacemaker. Great film. Poor title.

  • Anyone else worried about the possibility of some kind of mini nuclear device stashed away somewhere in the middle of this giant fucking convoy

    Like some kind of uncovered exhaust port on the deathstar? Seems like a really bad idea.

  • Best watch this if you like feeling the fear.
    Covid seems like a walk in the park in hindsight..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNkjqBmO­meA

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  • That 40 mile convoy on the news this morning is a massive sitting duck isn't it? Surely there must be loads of ambushes set up and they will be operating drone strikes to slow it down?

    Sadly, I suspect that it well protected both on the ground and in the air.

  • Yeah, maybe more like a big ol' game of chicken

    How well protected can a 40mile military convoy be, in it's entirety, from all possible type of missile strikes? Wouldn't a serious assault near the front of it cause serious problems for everything behind it - even a load of strikes some way ahead to tear up the potential path?

  • It is not a reference to Zarah Sultana. Some in STW, yes. Anyone talking about buffer zones or spheres of influence needs to do some thinking about their worldview.

    Do STW believe Ukraine has a sovereign right to apply to join the EU?

  • Could it be one of the below I wonder.

    1- I've got a massive convey coming your way, give up now please (with no intention of using it)

    2- it's actually empty and just a distraction to move things about in other places.

    3 - it is just a massive stack of doom (civ 4 anyone?) Which will be bringing destruction to Kyiv.

  • Considering what they did in Grozny I can't see how this ends well.

  • That is a photo of Grozny from 1995, after the first Chechen war, but the point still stands.

    Photos of Eastern Aleppo also demonstrate the mass indiscriminate use of shelling and bombing against civilian areas: https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/war­-torn-eastern-aleppo

  • This is worth a read, an interview with Fiona Hill, US national security analyst:

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2­022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00­012340

  • This is worth a read, an interview with Fiona Hill, US national security analyst:

    The first line is "he's trying to take down the entire world order". But the only reason there's any interest, and action, from the "West" is that he's attacking white people. The world order is Saudi Arabia - Yemen, Israel - Palestine, Ethiopia - Tigray etc.

  • But the only reason there's any interest, and action, from the "West" is that he's attacking white people

    lol

  • He is trying to take down a democracy, a system most of us have an affinity with

  • You may think it's amusing, but you're in the east. Poland had a massive demonstration at the weekend, so did Berlin. In the UK a few people turned up in Trafalgar square, and wasn't there a survey posted on here where over 60% think we shouldn't get involved? Hardly anyone gives a fuck about Ukraine, unless their cleaner is upset...
    And the liberal, artsy types I follow in the USA, are totally ignoring the situation, or if anything stating the hypocrisy of the west, and even mentioning USA - Iraq/Afghanistan.

    And I'm a right-on lefty, who is pissed that there's still a thread on here enabling cheap products from China for people who happily ignore the human rights abuses going on in that country.

  • It is not a reference to Zarah Sultana. Some in STW, yes. Anyone talking about buffer zones or spheres of influence needs to do some thinking about their worldview.

    You've still not said who it's a reference to. Maybe instead of making vague and ambiguous insinuations towards about "the left" which people can, and do, read to mean what they want, you can be a bit more precise and name the people on the left who don't "recognise the people of Ukraine have a right to self determination" and think Ukraine should "simply accept being a vassal state of Putin." I'm fairly sure that, if there are any, it's a very small number. So painting an entire part of the political spectrum with that accusation is a bit disingenuous (verging on dangerous in such a politically charged atmosphere).

  • Putin sees Ukrain as being Russia, as a part of his own country, why would he nuke his own country?

  • Back to Finland and Nato - for the first time there has been a poll that shows a majority supporting membership: https://yle.fi/news/3-12337202

    I'd still not be putting bets on them joining, but that alone is a pretty big deal.

  • I agree with you on the thing that the further everyone is from the war, the less they care about it. It's logical.

    But I don't think it has anything to do with the skin colour. There were some issues at the border where they wouldn't let people of colour pass but I think it might've been a problem of paperwork (nationality other than Ukrainian etc).

    Even if it was racism related which it might as well be (we in eastern Europe are not that much exposed to multiculturalism) but let's not lose the main focus here - we see our neighbour getting slaughtered by a psychopath and if we don't do anything about it, we better hope the psychopath doesn't come down knocking on our doors any time soon.

  • Fair point, he doesn't strike me as the most rational of people though - everything right up until he rolled into Ukraine was seen as posturing & now we have a 40 mile long military convoy heading for the capital using thrermobaric & cluster munitions in civilian areas. If things escalated & he ends up taking second prize what's to say he wouldn't just spoil it for everyone.

  • STW

    SingleTrackWorld? I'm assuming not but can't work out what that stands for

  • US national security analyst and all round badass:

    ftfy

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