Is Steve Goff still in business?

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  • What's bad about a 3 or 4 month wait for a custom frame? I can remember waiting longer in the 80s. There are plenty of builders who will charge twice as much as Steve for no greater craftsmanship, with infinitely less experience and make you wait far longer. He doesn't build show bikes, just bloody good frames at excellent prices.

  • I don't mind waiting I just hate to add anything to my list of people to chase up to see if they're doing what they said they'd do last time we spoke.

  • I decided against having downtube shifters in the end, and decided to go for a Campagnolo groupset throughout, because I couldn't be confident enough about the compatibility of a modern 9/10/11-speed cassette with friction shifters, and couldn't find any conclusive information about how well they work together.

    I can always experiment later at my leisure if I feel a burning need to have friction levers; this way I will start out with something that I know works.

  • Which one you getting? Are you getting disc brakes?

  • I can always experiment later at my leisure if I feel a burning need to have friction levers;

    Good plan.
    I’m using an MTB friction thumb shifter from 6 or 7 sp era on a 10sp cassette, works fine. I have read somewhere that the pulls on 11sp is different (more) but I reckon you have a good chance of making 10sp or less work with a nice old friction lever.

  • The problem with friction shifting 11 speed is that the gears are so close together, you have to be really precise with the shifter, if it's not in exactly the right spot, you'll be between gears and your chain will skip up and down endlessly

  • Other way around surely.

    More cogs in the same space (more or less, I know overall width has increased a bit) = more chance of hitting a gear, might not be the exact one you wanted but…

  • Don't think so, fewer gears over almost the same width and you've got more lever throw until you hit the next gear. Smaller spacing between gears means a much smaller window of smooth running per gear before the chain starts to want to jump up or down to the next one.
    That's only what I've read though so you might be right

  • 10 working fine on a soft action (if you know what I mean!?) thumby, has a gentle ratchety click. Never had any problems staying in gear, though I don’t know I may find teeth wear changes that.

    My son’s been riding a 9sp with a friction thumby for ages, to school and some other practical stuff, bit of loaded touring. He came to it from an Isla with 8 sp twist shift, immediately preferred friction, always changed gears pretty accurately.

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Is Steve Goff still in business?

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