Masks Work & How To Make Your Own Face Masks

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  • Also don't be an insufferable cunt.

    This, but also this thread was closed for good reasons.

    It was not responsible to advocate mask wearing then because the chronic shortage of PPE meant healthcare and other front line workers had to improvise with what they could get. Your 3M mask sounds exactly like the sort of thing these front line workers were having to buy at the time, so I don't think you can lay claim to any high horse.

    I agree with you about irresponsible runners and cyclists, but I don't think asking people to wear masks while doing intense exercise is practical. I think these runners just need to give people space and slow down sometimes to do that, but for some reason a lot of runners seem to have a problem with slowing down. Just like a lot of cyclists don't seem to realise that pulling up way less than 2m from someone panting at the lights is a good look.

  • Nobody has mentioned the huge amount of disposable mask wearing yet. Drives me nuts when there are so many reusable options...

  • I just think it's very silly how the majority of people I spoke to, including family and friends, didn't want to also look to places like Taiwan and see what was working for them (today they have a total of 485 cases, and 7 deaths - they are also an island, about the size of Wales, but just stopped all travel and behaved sensibly), and then act accordingly. Their public information campaigns are also excellent, and light-hearted. Everyone got involved to help one-another. I wish it could have been the same here. There was a mother of three in Peckham I read about who died in March and it broke my heart, along with all the others who had come to this country to work for the NHS, did so their whole adult lives, and then died from the virus when the government wouldn't pay them properly and wanted them out. That was about the same time Boris and Charles etc were being sent off to the countryside. I don't think people now are remembering and respecting all those who died. I think still people are behaving recklessly and with little care for others.

  • Mate this country is willing to let asylum seekers drown in the channel, what fucking planet are you on with ..

    Everyone got involved to help one-another. I wish it could have been the same here.
    I don't think people now are remembering and respecting all those who died. I think still people are behaving recklessly and with little care for others.

    There is no one approach fits all. UK government has failed in their response to the crisis causing the highest deaths in western Europe, its Boris to blame not some runner not wearing a mask.

    As fox said there was a good reason for masks not to be a thing back then.

  • I think the kind I have is less-commonly used in healthcare. More often they use the disposable N95/N99 masks. When I bought it in early Feb they were available on Amazon. During lockdown I used the mask to go out and do weekly food shopping for my family, so they could stay home and be safe, and they were also against using masks. By not getting sick myself I was protecting others - that was my thinking, and still is. Your point about the waste I agree with, which was another reason for choosing this one.

    Also, I reckon the government did a pretty good job of laying the blame squarely with the public for any shortages and avoiding responsibility themselves. Of course, people were bulk-buying to sell for profit, which was a real issue.

    I disagree with high-intensity exercise not being great for masks - I've cycled with a standard disposable surgical style mask and although not pleasant it is possible. Any fabric-style one would be absolutely do-able. If they were mandatory for cycling and running I wouldn't complain.

  • Fair point. I did say comeback rather than insult but I agree with your sentiment. It’s more the comparison of the strong ‘macho’ male with a child, and we just happen to have a small girl come by our work often; if she were instead a boy with a cartoon mask, I would use that.

  • I think the kind I have is less-commonly used in healthcare. More often they use the disposable N95/N99 masks.

    The point is that especially during the peak of the pandemic healthcare workers were having to make do, improvise and order their own masks from the internet - just like you did. They weren't necessarily using masks deemed appropriate. And it's not just healthcare workers either, it's key workers more widely.

    This is why we were asked to use face coverings, not masks. And according to these stories the PPE problem hasn't gone away and key workers are being warned about discussing the shortages publicly:
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12307044/u­k-ppe-shortage-laid-bare/
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/healt­h/coronavirus-surgery-nhs-ppe-hospital-s­upplies-shortages-a9661916.html

    I've cycled with a standard disposable surgical style mask and although not pleasant it is possible.

    I'm sure it is literally possible to wear a mask while cycling, but if you cycle at a decent pace and actually train you will be panting and breathing very heavily which wouldn't work well with a mask. More importantly though cycling is ideal socially distanced exercise - I went out and did 40 miles last night and I was nowhere near anyone at any point - so why would you need to wear one?

  • Any glasses wearers found a good mask that doesn't make their glasses mist up?

  • These are the best I've found for avoiding misting. The nose clip is decent and if you've got it fitted well with hardly any gap at the top it's not too much of an issue. The adjustable straps are decent for avoiding your specs slipping off your ears as well.

  • I just got some of these off the back of your recommendation and can confirm they’re very easy to adjust to get a very good fit.

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