CS9 Kensington to Brentford public consultation closes Oct 31st

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  • I ride there every day. And no, the plan going east PAST the bridge is on its own segregated track until Watermans Art Centre.

  • Sorry, I am confusing everything. I meant to say going WEST, not East, sorry. My fault :)

  • Haha, kinda makes a difference!

  • Just a tiny bit. :-p

  • Looks like a significant step forward with Hounslow council showing support.
    Chiswick residents put a resistance but nimbism failed.
    Let's hope it's built and eventually linked to high street ken.
    Made for an entertaining evening on periscope with the other parliamentory shenanigans on.

  • Anyone know whether construction of this is due to start soon? Was supposed to be late 2019.

    So bored of contending with the pollution and massive heavy vehicles.

  • Would be good if they cracked on with this, now ready open for summer. They have the money.


  • \o/

    Bad note: more traffic for a while just now that I've got a car 😂

  • More info:


    It seems disruption in the Kew Bridge area will last for the full year (until Late Autumn 2020)

  • Grim on Chiswick High Road now. Back to situation where humans are there on sufferance of motor vehicles.

    Used to be relaxing to ride up and down (change direction) with ease as you needed to for shopping etc.

    Now you have to do a precisely judged manoeuvre anticipating the speeds, intentions etc of various vehicles, or go around a lengthy one way system - all the while breathing in pollution and being deafened by noise.

    As a result definitely not seeing the numbers of cyclists any more.

  • Anyone know who is responsible for Kew Bridge itself? Its on the border between Hounslow and Richmond, but I think might be maintained by TFL. Every time I ride it I get more annoyed at how rubbish it is. Multiple lanes for motor vehicles, while cyclists and pedestrians have to share a thin strip on either side, which doesn't work for all the usual reasons shared paths don't work, not to mention the fact theres usually a gaggle of people waiting at bus stops.

    On the plus side, now we have Wellesley road as an LTN, no one in their right mind would argue to turn it back into a rat run.

  • Anything with red lines along the sides is on the Transport for London Road Network (TLRN) (plus a few other bits that are not red-lined). Q Bridge very much is.

  • Also it's now , I think, one side only shared between pedestrians and cyclists as they reduced the width of the northbound pavement to make space for the road so that's now divided in two lanes for either direction (before there was one lane southbound)

  • You're right.

    It's a joke. On the left of the northbound side there are signs for the various cycle routes (east and west). Who does TFL think are reading those signs? Even as an experienced rider I have no desire to mix it with the 2 lanes of heavy traffic going northb0und.

    I vaguely thought TFL were supposed to be doing good things.

  • It's pretty poor, and I think it was a redesign after consultation due pressure from residents and car users not impact traffic flow.
    The cycle path is supposed to be bidirectional but is so inconvenient I never use it eastwards.
    Cs9 /cw9 abruptly stops there and is supposed to continue to brentford and hounslow eventually, so potentially some improvements are possible at some unknown time in the future.

  • It's very poor design particularly because the two northbound lanes and the two southbound ones all end in a single lane after a couple of meters off the bridge. The northbound ones even worse as they both steer in a curve, in the middle of the junction no less, eastward, with a bus stop (and a heavy used one, the Kew Bridge Station one) to complicate things.

    There's definitely no need for 4 lanes on the bridge and a single shared route for cyclists.

  • I'd have put a nice roundabout with cycle lanes both sides.

  • Had a response from Will Norman in case of interest. I still think space given to motor traffic needs to be reduced overall - not just shifted around a bit from one place to another. Also, he doesn't respond to my criticism of the shared use path, i.e. that it leads to conflict between pedestrians and cyclists and doesn't work.

    Transport for London (TfL) completed works on Cycleway 9 (C9) at Kew Bridge in March 2021 and, as you point out, there is now a slightly
    reduced pavement on the west side to accommodate the additional
    traffic lane on the Bridge. This traffic lane was needed to make the
    new cycle route work from a traffic perspective. It also provides much
    needed capacity on the south circular to enable the delivery of the C9
    segregated facility between Brentford and Kensington Olympia. As I'm
    sure you're aware, the Bridge's eastern pavement provides a shared use
    space for both pedestrians and cyclists which then connects back into
    the C9 track at the junction. It can be accessed via the controlled
    crossing point to the south of Kew Bridge. The onward connection to
    Wellesley Road is also now complete for those wishing to continue onto
    C9. TfL is very pleased to have been able to support the delivery of
    safer segregated cycle facilities on the A307 Kew Road. However, I
    accept there is a gap in the cycling provision, particularly for
    people cycling from the south of the river. I would like to see a
    high-quality connection between Richmond's new trial cycle lanes on
    the A307 Kew Road and Cycleway 9 at Kew Bridge, closing this gap in
    the network, and have asked TfL to work with Richmond to develop
    options for doing this.

  • Should go although the way to Heathrow tbh.
    But hopefully eastwards extensions has some positive news soon, the royal Borough should get with the programme.

  • Here's hoping!

  • TFL Have Your Say response to an email I sent criticising Kew Bridge:

    We've met with local stakeholders, including cycling campaigners and discussed these very same concerns. We then convened a meeting of IDP and Engineering and discussed a raft of potential improvements that could be made which are summarised below.

    All of these potential changes are subject to new funding – as you may be aware our current funding agreement with the Government comes to an end on 4 February 2022. However, we hear the local concerns and are committed to providing improved facilities to encourage more walking and cycling.

    Removing/relocating street furniture:
    We will review the street furniture on the bridge's eastern shared-use pavement, which, due to the space constraints, can create conflict between cyclists and pedestrians – as you observed. We are looking at relocating the Legible London sign at the northern end of the pavement, over to the north-eastern corner of the Strand-on-the-Green junction, to create more space on the bridge itself. We will also look at reconfiguring the layout of the southbound bus stop on the bridge to lessen the pinch point between the bus flag and the edge of the shelter, although any potential changes would have to comply with the Accessible Bus Stop guidelines. Finally, we will reach out to LB Richmond on Thames to discuss the potential relocation of the fingerpost at the north-eastern corner of the Kew Road / Kew Green junction, to make more space. Beyond these three features on the eastern pavement, the only other street furniture is the lamp columns, which cannot be moved

    Signage improvements:
    We plan to install new warning and directional signage along Kew Bridge both northbound and southbound to make the route clearer to cyclists. This will include 'no cycling' signage to make it more obvious to northbound cyclists that they should cross over to the eastern shared-use pavement using the toucan crossing. We will also look at providing painted cycling signs on the road Kew Green junction to mirror those at the Strand on the Green junction, as well as explore narrowing the exit of the western side of the Kew Green / Kew Road junction (which is currently exit-only on an experimental basis), to make crossing to the toucan easier for northbound cyclists looking to make that transition to the eastern shared-use pavement.

    20 mph & speed enforcement:
    Kew Bridge will be made 20mph as part of our Lowering Speed Limits programme by spring 2024 and this new limit will be reinforced with clear signage and road markings. Reducing the speed limit on Kew Bridge will contribute to making this road less polluted and more attractive for walking and cycling.

  • Bizarrely, it seems they still think it is rational to have a narrow shared use path for north & southbound cyclists and pedestrians with multiple bus stops meanwhile having 4 lanes for motor traffic.

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CS9 Kensington to Brentford public consultation closes Oct 31st

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