I got 99 problems but my WiFi ain't one

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  • Controller... fair point, but I'm kinda done running so many Raspberry Pi's, thinking of replacing my pi-hole with nextdns.io

    On switches, I'm going to need PoE everywhere too, if not just for the APs given that I'm already maxed out on power sockets at both ends and have split the power as much as I'm comfortable doing so.

    If it weren't for the PoE I'd skip the switches and just get the APs for the meantime.

  • I'd definitely run the controller on a raspberry pi.

    Or even on a laptop - it only needs to be running at config time or if you want to look at metrics, perform upgrades etc.

    It's nice to have on a PI so that you can use the web interface or API app on your phone. But it's not necessary. It's a total waste of money to get the hardware version. I'd only consider it if I was admin of a large corporate installation.

  • I find this thread interesting even though I don’t understand much of it, vacuum cleaner did made me laugh, I need to catch up

  • I run it on my Plex server. It's already always on and the extra footprint is minimal.

    Fair point on the PoE, although you can get dumb ones for under half the price (and you could probably skip one where you only need an extra port or two).

    I was partly wondering as I have a tough switch or whatever they're called in my network at home that, so far as I can see, adds little beyond a standard switch.

  • Have you seen the Unifi Dream Machine? It's a 4-port switch, controller & WAP all in one. Might allow you to cut-down your shopping list a bit?

  • I did, and noticed on Reddit and a few other places a mixed reception for the capabilities, and confusion around DNS override and a few other things.

    I want more control than it seemed to offer

  • I counted up all the my devices after reading this and I've got a lot more than I had thought.

    All the different Ubiquiti products confuse me though so I'm putting up with poor performance.

  • Having been through your process about a year ago (USG, UC-CK, 3*US-8-60W, 3*AP-AC Lite, 1*UAP-AC-M, 1*Netgear GS308) I'd consider the following:

    Have a look at the Unifi Switch 8 US‑8‑60W switches instead of the US-8-150W's, they run 4 POE points, which looks like it might be enough on at least one of your switches, and cost about half the price.

    Have a look at the UniFi AP-AC Lite's vs the PRO's. I'd looked at the Pro's but the AC Lite is pretty much as good, and saves a big chunk, I'm running 3 or them across the house (and one mesh outside) The AC Lites are a little bit slower, but once you've got things spread across as many as you're looking at, you likely don't need the higher speeds.

    If you're not worried about the video recording bits, maybe just get the original cloud key, rather than the UCK-G2?

    I threw that in the basket at NetXL (where I got my kit from) and it came to £628.74, which is a small saving...

    Bonus photo of my part completed 3d printed stack (still need to print the rack for the Netgear and the patching points)


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  • If you use the Unifi Switches, you can get a much finer level of detail out I think, also, you can force the wired devices (I push my X Box 360, suspect VB might shove the playstation & TV) over to a different Virtual Network (I use my IoT one) than your regular devices, based solely on the port they are on, which is handy.

    You can get to them from the regular network, but they can't get back in unless replying to a request is my understanding of how I've got it (or had it) setup.

  • how do these home networking setupsnwork with standard UK broadband providers, do you just take an ethernet out from your provided router to the entry point of a unifi system?

  • Yep, although it depends on how much of the infrastructure you are implementing yourself.

    You might just be replacing the WiFi.

    Or you might be replacing the routing, the DHCP, the DNS, the NATing, the port firewall.

    Based on that matrix of options you need to reconfigure your broadband modem / router / WiFi box to do more or fewer functions.

    The most sophisticated home networks will just have the broadband box acting as a modem.

  • Having been through your process about a year ago (USG, UC-CK, 3*US-8-60W, 3*AP-AC Lite, 1*UAP-AC-M, 1*Netgear GS308) I'd consider the following:

    Have a look at the Unifi Switch 8 US‑8‑60W switches instead of the US-8-150W's, they run 4 POE points, which looks like it might be enough on at least one of your switches, and cost about half the price.

    Very good call, I've updated my original plan to go for the 60w switches and this shaves off almost £300.

    I'll stick with the Pro APs though as I want the 3x3 radios, high bandwidth and high TX power... I fully intend to allow my future car to update systems by merely being parked outside, and I shift large files around my internal network on WiFi so that would be beneficial too.

    On the Cloud Key... I prefer the form factor of the gen 2 and the little info screen, and the fact that it's a bit more powerful. And am hoping that the gen 2 just means a longer life too.

    So thank you... I've got it to a price I'm willing to accept, and will pull the trigger.

  • Has anyone used the MESH capabilities on a FRTIZ!box? I have a 3490 spare, and they're pretty cheap second hand so I was thinking my parents Virgin box in modem mode and then using a couple 3490's instead of their crap extender.

  • I pulled the trigger, I love it all.

    Now about to enforce VLANs across the whole thing.


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  • Bear in mind not all clients are currently powered on... but still, so nice having a tidy network.

    And I've ditched the Pi-Hole and am now using https://nextdns.io/ for DNS blocking... because I can also us it on my mobile phone, in Firefox at work, in addition to the entire home network.

  • Now about to enforce VLANs across the whole thing.

    Feel free to show how you do this, as i end up making a mess of the entire network each time

  • Next DNS looks ace.

  • We just switched to vodafone from BT, router is in the same position as before, speeds are better than before (about 65mb/s) and latency is low, but doing video calls, and listening to music via AirPlay is terrible.

    I'm breaking up on VC calls, and audio over AirPlay stutters randomly but often (at least once a minute).

    No idea what to do about it.. only a one bedroom flat with maybe 8 metres between router and my desk

  • Probably wifi congestion from neighbouring properties. Some APs handle it well, some do not.

    There are cheaper ways of dealing with it but I found buying Google WiFi solves that problem in our flat in a block of 70.

  • I only live in a block of three flats, if i search for other networks i see a total of 4 including mine, 2 BT, 1VM and my vodafone.. so dont think so?

  • Change WiFi channel?

  • will try that.

    Only thing thats different other than the router/ISP is that I went for a combined 2.4/5ghz network whereas previously I had split networks

  • On what basis do you trust NextDNS? It seems a good idea but it is also maintaining a lot of detailed logs in the US.

  • WiFiAnalyzer on Android will give you a decent enough view of what channels are being used around you.

    There are applications on windows / linux that you can use too, obvs

  • have moved to unused channels on both 2.4 and 5 bands and has made no difference

    stuttering via airplay gets noticeably worse when other things are going on i.e i just switched on my apple tv and airplay basically stuttered and paused for 10 seconds while it booted up, then came back

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I got 99 problems but my WiFi ain't one

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