Seven Axiom SLX, 4-season and all-road

No sparkles, but very pink. The photo on the top of page 2 is probably the right colour: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/297404/?offset=25

( I'm resisting the temptation to choose the wheels with pink decals, pink bar tape, pink saddle, etc... just the frame and fork. )

You'll never get all the pinks to match..

Yeah, that's why I'm going to avoid that.

Also hard... avoiding reds. Red splashes on groupset will not pair well.

I'd run tubs because I'm pretty risk adverse in some departments- and would therefore not combine high mountains, carbon fibre clinchers and rim brakes, for fear of overheating and subsequent resin melting issues. Other opinions are available.

Actually that was the one scenario in which I wanted discs, for that reason... carbon clincher and heat fear.

Are there any disadvantages for you to have discs? The weight penalty is really minimal these days with carbon disc wheelsets being available at 1400g etc
Obviously the aesthetics but just seems a good way of future proofing, the benefits of carbon wheels without the rim wear/delaminating fears and at the rear when the rotor is hidden behind the cassette, makes the frame much cleaner and less cluttered looking with no caliper or cables showing.

All that is solved by tubular tyres and only an issue in the mountains, discs (as a system) are STILL not as refined. Bossman's brief is buy the best of the old tech. Discs according to him are 'taste of the future' stage and I agree.

I prefer Campag, their discs aren't great, SRAM levers could work but starts to be a mix, then I'd change the gruppo to SRAM, probably would go electronic if this was going to be done.

At this point I'd already be living with regret, I really love high end campag... it's extraordinarily good.

Yeah I understand, still disc brakes aren't modern tech, they've been around in mountain biking for an age and it won't be long until the transition to road frames is perfected, no harm in replacing the brakes with top of the line in a couple of years, hence the future proofing. As where in 5 years or so when you've got your expensive rim braked bike and can no longer upgrade the group because caliper brakes are a thing of the past, maybe you'd wish you'd have gone with it. Just food for thought is all.

Yes good points. Shimano and sram have been heavy on the disc front but campag seem to only just be dabbling. In years to come they'll catch up but with your brief of top end campag it does make sense to stick with rim brakes I guess.

still disc brakes aren't modern tech, they've been around in mountain biking for an age

Isnt it a bit sad that they are still taking so long to be 'there' on road bikes?

Rim brake aint dying for a long time IMO. UCI vs #buyer

I did discs in early days and I did discs a month ago, not much has changed tbh except for the fact that they are now controlled by mineral oil. Discs stop phenomenally well etc but I am yet to ride a disc bike that is as 'lively' as a decent road bike.

There is hope though like Canyon or Cervelo putting discs on their top end road bikes. Still all very first gen.

Anyway this is not a disc bike.

Can we discuss the merits of using carbon for the lugs, and ti for the tubes?

like Canyon or Cervelo putting discs on their top end road bikes.

It takes something like this to make the other manufacturers race to keep up and that's when the kit starts to get better and cheaper. I guess this is the start of things to come and you're probably right, for an otp buy, maybe discs make sense but this build being the best that's available currently, makes more sense to go with the perfected rim brake

Campag never took the MTB market seriously... they're way behind now, having to invent new solutions to long-solved problems because Shimano and a few others have all of the patents for the more obvious solutions.

For all of Campag's advantages with their core groupset, they are in a very bad place with regards to disc brakes.

bling, obvs

No.

(FWIW, I see no advantage whatsoever in mixing ti and carbon, pick one or the other not a hybrid of both, which doesn't give you the advantages of either).

Agreed. Have been very impressed with mine and they look great on a ti frame.

Boooorrrrring

Weren't there's an issue on the dubai tour iirc where the tubular glue melted and dislodged the tubs?

The risk with Rim brakes is more on the resin of the rims no? Regardless of the type of tyres.
And there lies the advantages of disc.

TBF, the new Campagnolo disc brakes look super nice and actually not ugly.

5 pages in an no bottle cage decision?

(FWIW, I see no advantage whatsoever in mixing ti and carbon, pick one or the other not a hybrid of both, which doesn't give you the advantages of either).

Also FWIW, when the ti part of my mixed frame cracked, Enigma agreed, in principle at least, to have a stab at fixing it. Then, after seeing a pic with the carbon mix (which I'd already mentioned and was nowhere near the crack) they said 'no way' immediately because apparently the materials involved meant the repair was almost impossible...*

*I have no idea if that's true or not, but it ultimately led to me binning the frame off..

202 tubulars relatively cheap here: http://www.xxcycle.com/zipp-302-firecrest-tubular-wheelset-2014,,en.php

You'd think fixing a ti/carbon frame was easier since you can just pop a new carbon tube in if the lugs are alright, no?

5 pages in an no bottle cage decision?

There will be places for bottle cages.

I'm thinking the front forks? ;)