• Following on from the traffic counts in Harringay over the past year or so it looks like there are various discussions and proposals for improving the area. Some suggestions of segregated cycle lanes on Wightman Road which would be nice. The budget seems to be minimal though (£350k?) so I'm not sure what will actually be achieved.


  • Looks like these are the options. Whilst everywhere else is moving away from one-way streets Haringey is viewing them as a solution.

  • One-way streets get put in all the time. You'd wish there was progress, but unfortunately these things are cyclical, and the reasons why one-way streets are a very bad idea are soon forgotten if they don't get emphasised all the time. Add to that the facts that a lot of people intuitively, without thinking much, think they're a great idea (get games of chicken and fisticuffs in your street? easily solved--one-way streets!) and that filtering seems to people impossibly daring, taking away their freedom, and/or interfering with a 'modern' lifestyle, and one-ways can actually, indirectly, be prompted by a suggestion to filter.

    The above options are really fairly standard. One-ways are in there because they're seen as intermediate between the most basic and the luxury option. Of course, they're not 'intermediate' but something completely different. I do hope the local campaign manages to persuade a lot of people to back Option 4. And, lest we forget--a few years ago, an Option 4 wouldn't even have been on the menu. There was a long period in which very little filtering was done in London.

  • I think Option 4 has only really appeared after the road was closed due to the bridge works last year. I can't see it happening though, the council plan for Wightman Rd seems to be to shunt traffic down there when the developments for Wood Green happen (a lot of new housing and retail is being proposed).

    One of the other issues with the one-way streets option is that it actually makes up 50% of the choices with each direction being a choice which skews it a little.

    Looking at the local forum the one-way street isn't popular but I'm not sure how much influence that will have.

  • I live just north of WR, and can completely see why the road's residents wanted the closure to remain after the bridge work was completed. Having said that, the knock-on effect to the roads from Crouch End across to Green Lanes made the whole area horrendous and although I definitely feel traffic-reduction has got to be a move worth considering, until that actually happens none of options 2, 3 or 4 sound that appealing to me!

  • I can't see it happening though

    Oh, it would be a miracle if it happened, and yes, the important thing is to stop 'something to be done because something has to be done' in general and in particular one-way streets.

  • although I definitely feel traffic-reduction has got to be a move worth considering, until that actually happens none of options 2, 3 or 4 sound that appealing to me!

    Yes, the issue is that it has to be done everywhere consistently or you just end up pushing through motor traffic into other areas, usually to travel more orbitally. The big if in London is simply whether economic development, the primary cause of trip concentration and distribution, can be 'evened out' more, that is, whether the only, and fairly silly, reason why we engineer every junction for the over-concentrated morning peak hour, when most people go into Central London before they come back in the evening, can be mad redundant, so that people are able to travel shorter distances more locally and by better modes. Interestingly, greater densification of a city should make that possible--if, and it's a big if, the powerful interests that make a city attractive don't insist on further over-development of the city's core (obviously, they usually do).

    The thing is that once you've started the filtering process in one area, usually the one affected the worst, it becomes easier to make the case for spreading the application (as the next worst-affected area is done, and so on).

  • I like one way streets where appropriate, to write them off wholescale is just blinkered ideology.

    Where they don't allow fast rat running they can free up road space for segregation such as royal college street.

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Wightman Road, Green Lanes, Harringay - Traffic workshop

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