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• #9702
All of us are immigrants.
Not me, I'm a child of immigrants. I am not an immigrant.
(Sorry, couple of pages too late)
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• #9703
Pretty bad.
We were wary last year when my daughters school started teaching 'british values' (because all the things they taught, clearly, only applied to British people, not everyone on the planet...). Now I feel like I have to keep a closer eye on that in the future as well.
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• #9704
I think people have a disconnect between "those lovely people in hospital" and "immigrants as a horde" that genuinely doesn't make them see that voting Kipper/Brexit will also hurt those "lovely people in hospital". Because...why would anybody be mean to those lovely people?
People are sometimes just not cynical enough / not informed enough..but even knowing all that, I wouldn't pick brexiters as friends, because Brexit is a threat to my situation in the UK. So there you go, broken brexit UK :/
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• #9705
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/24/datacentred_went_under_due_to_hmrc_move_to_amazon/
There you go, UK jobs for UK people....that bastion of tax paying called Amazon. Of course Amazon is cheaper, part because of scale, part cos they don't, errrr, pay tax.
But it just gets to show it's £ >>> narrative of UK jobs for...UK people.
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• #9706
HMRC: Our records show that you owe £11 billionty million in unpaid taxes.
Amazon: What records? -
• #9707
Have you been following the story in America about different cities vying to host Amazon's second HQ. Its really pretty disgusting
Everything is for sale
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• #9708
Oh they'd be more subtle than that... one penny in every pound could disappear, and before HMRC realizes, their tax bill is cut by a few %.
Then because they pretty much took over, they can negotiate it down again, because moving provider will cost even more, value for tax payers money, innit...
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• #9709
This here?
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/amazons_hq2_decision/
I can see how this is super attractive for a city, jobs, money...but the "we want a special deal" thing is so typical Amazon again.
I've great respect for some aspects of the company, one of the few that survived the .com bubble, but they just have to be tax avoiding asshats, so it's a no from me.
Get your books on hive.co.uk etc...
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• #9710
Downloading that on the kindle today.
For that model to work I think you need to get rid of 90% of the population or nuke NYC, Singapore, Tokyo and Hong Kong.
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• #9711
+1 for hive.co.uk
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• #9712
For that model to work I think you need to get rid of 90% of the population or nuke NYC, Singapore, Tokyo and Hong Kong.
BondVillain.jpg
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• #9713
All this waffling over tax can easily be sorted if you have someone in charge of the money who has an investment management background. That kind of person will doubtless have an unrivalled understanding of numbery things. Time to go Full Metal Brexit.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/andrea-leadsom-wants-to-be-chancellor-say-allies-2017-10
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• #9714
Leadsom is the one you want,
her sketchy CV makes it abundantly clear,
she was in the background whilst others got on with the investment banking. -
• #9715
She has children - you get to know a lot about budgeting when you have a family. Where do I put my X?
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• #9716
Yes, a particularly entertaining episode.
From an old FT article:
Her business experience turned out to be less grand than she had claimed. “I ran financial services businesses for 25 years,” she had said in the BBC’s biggest referendum debate at Wembley Arena, two days before the vote.
In fact, she had worked in compliance-type roles at Barclays and Invesco Perpetual — never managing funds or running businesses. Her CV said she had been financial institutions director; after questioning, it was revised to deputy director. A Treasury official told the FT that Mrs Leadsom was the “worst minister we’ve ever had”. -
• #9717
What's the matter with all these people? Our team meetings don't descend into '14 different job applications to be [team leader]" when something's a bit tricky.
Beyond being a mother, she's manifestly unqualified to do this role.
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• #9718
It seems to be a thing in America generally, I remember Apple did a lot of bullying of the local council when they were contemplating their new headquarters and American Football stadiums, etc seem to rely on huge funds and concessions from the public purse to provide a stadium for a team owned by a billionaire.
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• #9719
I know this shouldn't come as a surprise, but:
Her CV said she had been financial institutions director; after questioning,
it was revised to deputy director.So she lied on her CV. Shouldn't that automatically disqualify you from the job you are applying for?
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• #9720
Yes
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• #9721
A letter from Damian Collins

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/922789844149002240
(Slightly saddened to see that Facebook's address is 1 Hacker Way)
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• #9722
Surprise! Apparently he does believe in free speech, and wants an open debate.
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• #9723
'To be absolutely clear' and contrary to my actions regarding this matter
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• #9724
And "Using Twitter for broadcast only." So unlikely to be listening...
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• #9725
Andrea Liedsom, then.
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What, who, the fuck (the Guardian Chris Heaton-Thingy) article?
After reading that crookedtimber article beforehand, having a reflective morning...