EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Let us look to June 1595 for inspiration.

  • tarring

    I suspect the UK is no longer self-sufficient in Tar.
    Like many chemicals it was imported from ... the EU!

  • You see. It's not just the fish that are happier. The shellfish are too.

    Selfish, the lot of them!

    British fishermen want to sell fish!

  • Alright then Lyle's golden syrup and feather the bastards.

  • I won't be happy until this horrific practice is banned everywhere and banned altogether.

  • Yeah, but back then nobody reassured people that there would be adequate food.

  • Can we force all of the people who voted for this shitshow to register so that the rest of us can gather outside our houses at 8 every Thursday and give them a slow clap, like what happened in the first lockdown but y'know with more snarc, sarcasm and an even more heightened sense impending doom.

    I'm not sure the Venn diagram for 'Voted for Brexit' and 'Appreciates Irony' has a significant degree of overlap. Despite that, sounds like a fine plan.

  • Looks like Gove is (reading between the lines) asking that fresh negotiations with the EU are started as the current situation in NI isn't going to work. Challenge here is one of honesty - to negotiate I would assume that the Government are going to have to face the reality that a Canada deal is not suitable - quite the volte face and I don't think they're capable of it, so if the EU do entertain starting fresh negs they're doomed to failure.

    Thinking about it if I were the EU I'd make an honest assessment of the situation from the UK side a condition for starting.

  • PLEASE NOTE: We have stopped shipping to Europe as of 21/12/2020. The
    EU import duties mean that it is no longer economic.

    https://www.spacycles.co.uk/

  • Scallop fishing, like most fishing, is pretty shit.

  • Refreshing to see a bike shop speaking their mind online. Shame for their loss of business tho.

  • PLEASE NOTE: We have stopped shipping to Europe as of 21/12/2020. The

    EU import duties mean that it is no longer economic.

    https://www.spacycles.co.uk/

    I think it's a bit strange in honesty. As long as the buyer is prepared to pay import duties and extra shipping then where's the issue? Selfishly, Spa is one of those places I buy hard to find small parts that cost a couple of quid so it's a bugger that I'll have to find someone to trans-ship for me.

  • You have to prepare an export declaration for everything that you ship, no matter how small, which requires three copies of the form, the tariff code for the item/s, and for smaller parts (below £135) they would need to register in the VAT domain of every EU country that orders from them- so potentially 27 concurrent (paid, if they’re like ours) registrations.

    Then there’s international freight which is now much more expensive and increasing in cost.

    Would you keep buying your small items if shipping was £25 a go?

  • Fair point.I have no idea why the UK didn't request to stay in the EU VAT scheme. It's not like the money was never sent back to the UK and it meant a single point of contact for VAT payments. The current system is bizarre and inconvenient if you're in the EU but potentially business destroying for some UK companies if they don't change the rules.

  • Because we are idiots, and we wanted Canada. The EU therefore gave us Canada.

  • Do Canada have to negotiate with the EU when they want to change the terms that cover sending goods to and from Newfoundland?

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-5­5913907

    UK government calls for urgent EU action over NI. Em you signed the border protocol without giving parliament time to scrutinize it, remember?

    The trust issues is rich too.

    Again hope something gets sorted but the UK is now nearly full out of EU regulatory alignment thanks to this lot and that's causing the problems here.

  • Another company unable to trade with Europe

    EU SHIPMENTS TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED DUE TO BREXSHIT

    We are very sad that the UK has left the European Union (EU).

    We didn’t want this, didn’t vote for this, but now we – and you, our loyal EU friends and customers – are having to face the unhappy consequences.

    We had hoped to protect our EU customers by covering any additional sales taxes you would be charged, we figured that as we would no longer be paying 20% VAT to the UK government on EU sales, we could afford to pay your local country VAT on your behalf. Sadly, the very high additional fees and charges being imposed by the courier companies and the individual EU customs agencies mean that to do this we are heavily penalised, to the extent that we are making significant losses on many individual shipments to EU countries.

    We are working very hard on a viable solution.

    We are also investigating setting up an operation in the EU so that all EU orders can be shipped from within the EU and you will be able to receive deliveries without additional cost or inconvenience. Of course, this will take some time to implement.

    For a short period, we will not be taking orders from EU customers (with immediate effect).

    We hope to be able to resume taking orders and making shipments again in March, with new EU processes to be outlined as soon as possible.

    We are devastated that this has happened. Rest assured we are working around the clock to try and find a resolution.

  • I remember back in 2015/16 talking to people about Brexit and bringing up the ROI/NI/GB border issue and no one aside from other people from Ireland had heard it mentioned prior. Still think it's utterly baffling how little coverage it got until it was too late.

  • Although I’m not familiar with the recent export rules, previously exporting to non-eu countries your ERP system would generate the necessary documents. For larger companies I’d expect it to be also tied into the carrier system so minimal manual input there too.
    Import is another matter where manual checks are still vital.

  • Although I’m not familiar with the recent export rules, previously exporting to non-eu countries your ERP system would generate the necessary documents. For larger companies I’d expect it to be also tied into the carrier system so minimal manual input there too.
    Import is another matter where manual checks are still vital.

  • Won't they be losing their massive EU subsidy?

    Or did they already lose it, which is why they were so pro-brexit.

  • The sugar Brexit thing is about the raw materials they use to extract their sugar from. It can come from either cane or beets, one of which gets an EU subsidy to grow in the UK (beets? I think...)

    It's something along the lines of Tate and Lyle using cane, which is imported. So their competitors no longer get to use subsidised raw materials, hence their pro Brexit stance.

    Also, David David worked there a long time, so there's that.

  • I suspect not due to Newfoundland having no land border with an EU member.

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