EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • You'll be fine. I, on the other hand, have to persuade Cycliste to marry me if I want to spend more than 90 days at a time in Switzerland. Haven't managed to in 25 years. Can't see the odds improving.

    What's the most affordable route to an EU passport, asking for a friend?

  • Not sure these days. Ireland used to be a good option, but Cyprus seems popular with Russian oligarchs looking for an EU passport. Malta is another option I think.

  • They close the M20 and park lorries on it (Operation Stack) when there are strikes and the like.
    Probably adapt that a bit.
    Who needs motorways for travel when you can just use them as a glorified car park?

    Edit: Operation Brock is the new version for Post-Brexit world.
    This is all leaving though, not coming in, AFAIK

  • I can see Manston 'Airport' being used an HGV park/freeport style
    truck park,
    as there just isn't the space down in the docks at Dover.

  • Malta:-

    In Malta, for example, they require the main applicant to contribute €650,000 to the National Development and Social Fund (and €25,000 each for a spouse and minor children). This is a donation that you will not get back.

    Plus, you must purchase a house with a value of €350,000 or rent for five years with an annual minimum of €16,000. Finally, you must invest at least €150,000 in government-approved financial instruments – stocks, bonds, etc.

    Not very affordable for the average person.

  • I understand the long game is still available if you don't have a million behind the sofa.

    Move to your EU country of choice before the end of this year and get a job/register with the local authorities. Keep your nose clean for about 5 years and apply for citizenship.

  • I was looking at this too, I've got a Swiss grandparent so thought I may be able to use that but they changed the law in 2017/2018 so I've missed the boat.

  • Swiss != EU

  • Yeah but still gets visa free travel in the Shengen area

  • One benefit of being from the north west is that virtually everyone has an Irish grandparent.

  • A digression, but I wondered for a while whether there will be services offered at some point to trace ancestry back with a view to getting a passport.

    For example, I remember reading somewhere that you can claim Italian citizenship on your paternal side with no limit on how far back you go - something like that must worth some investigation for a large number of people (and presumably each EU country has different standards).

    I keep meaning to looking into mine - I can only trace it as far as Scotland for my grandparents, which in itself might be worthwhile in a couple of years time.

  • There is the possibility of citizenship by descent / registration.

  • Not very affordable for the average person.

    Well, no. I think that's the idea. If it was affordable, everyone would be doing it.

  • I've got Czech ancestry and dug around a little to see if I could get nationality that way but it is complicated by my grandmother not returning after WWII and the communists revoking her citizenship for being a splitter. My grandfather joined the British army in WWII and got killed which means his citizenship was never revoked so that might be a path.

    Before WWI my grandfather was a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire which I think means I'm eligible for Hungarian citizenship by descent too but I would need to learn some basic Hungarian.

    Both routes probably require finding and paying an in country agency to guide me through the process and since I don't expect to ever live in the EU27 there doesn't seem a lot of point. I'd kind of like it for my kids though on the off chance they ever want to leave North London.

  • I would need to learn some basic Hungarian.

    give up now, it's not worth it.

  • half price compared to UK

  • Or, set-up as a freelancer (costing €75) and pay 3 months social security at about €67 per month, and get the residency that way. Maybe add in €150 for someone to arrange the appointments for you and avoid some stress.

    We landed here in May 2019, had residency in October, because we took a while deciding which option to take (there are others, all more expensive).

  • Only a few hours to go before the next stage of us being royally fucked. Yay.

  • You can't get a passport until you have nationality after 10 years though. Looks like I read it wrong and you can't get a passport through the golden visa either, tough break.

  • Still free travel within Schengan zone though.

  • 2021 is going to be the year of the chaos Brexit gods :/

  • You also have to actually live there for 6 months of each year, if you're buying an EU passport you probably don't want to have to be present in that country, you want to be on your yacht.

  • you want to be on your yacht.

    On the yacht owned by a BVI-registered company with shareholders in Jersey and directors in Panama that you just happen to have available for your use...

  • Ah yes sorry, "your" yacht.

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