EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Him and Gove stopped by the office today

  • My hunch is that @WornCleat is the man behind the scenes with the finance and the influence.

  • https://www.businessinsider.com/nhs-char­ge-eu-citizens-treatment-after-no-deal-b­rexit-2019-8?r=US&IR=T&fbclid=IwAR2Ht8cN­FNyz6NkEZdyFq3--GQvMVpEBaTXQWgIc-M8Eujaa­iQqp_UpDyyE

    "An estimated one in three citizens have registered for the "settled status" scheme which provides EU citizens with a legal right to remain in the country, meaning many do not necessarily have documentation which proves their right to remain in the country. "

    So...2/3rds have not!

    There is no way everybody will be apply to apply on time by October 31st (see also the benefits shambles people already experience)

  • see also the benefits shambles people already experience.

    It been six months since I've applied for PIP (before it was called Disablity Living Allowance, but the Tory decided that it need a replacement).

  • A mate of mine had a lot of hassle, and another person I know won't even apply as the assessment is so harsh on people with mental health issues. The current system is so harsh people don't apply/have to appeal/get more stressed and unwell and there is no excuse for it.

    On top of that, EU nationals get told they are not residents, even when they are because the DWP makes up their rules if they feel like it and so they get excluded just for that.

    Are you getting paid DLA and waiting to get PIP or just left with no money?

  • won't even apply as the assessment is so harsh on people with mental health issues.

    They legit ask those who are suicidal to describe what their last suicidal attempt was like.

    Currently still on DLA, but will be stopped soon for the draconian PIP, whose appplication was draining and design to catch you.

  • I'm curious as to whether that means that 2/3 have just not applied at all or they've tried to and have been told there aren't enough records to support their application and they've given up? My wife moved to London in 2013, immediately got a NIN and started working but when she applied for settled status this year the Home Office claimed they had no record of her residing here until 2016 so that she didn't have the necessary 5 years to be eligible. Luckily she always keeps meticulous folders of documents so she was able to upload them proving she was around in 2013/14/15, they reviewed it and granted settled status but I can imagine some people would just be like 'oh fuck this'.

  • I'm curious as to whether that means that 2/3 have just not applied at all or they've tried to and have been told there aren't enough records to support their application and they've given up?

    Don't forget the app is only in Android and here's the cracker;

    The ‘ID Document Check’ app will be available for iPhone by the end of 2019.

    End of 2019.

  • Yeah I really don't get that. My girlfriend started her application on my phone because of this... how hard can it be to make an iPhone version? There's AAA video games being developed more quickly than this.

  • most probably related to the fact that legislation requires that a solution be available by x date. box ticked.

    also, multi platform app development is expensive.

  • This may be wrong, but I seem to recall its due to the NFC in the Android handset being available to the app, whereas in the iPhone there's something that is a gating factor to doing that.

  • Yeah the iPhone's NFC is locked to Apple Pay AFAIK.

  • Some people aren't applying yet and are waiting for Brexit to happen
    Some are not applying as they are moving out of the UK
    Some genuinely don't know (I got 0 info from the government, of course I am informed via the news but how many people don't know?)
    And some may have given up

    It is impossible to have a breakdown. My ex had the same problem, also here for ages but "not enough info" he had to compress everything on the computer as there is also an upload limit... either way 2/3rd missing and possibly being denied healthcare
    AND
    no amnesty in the law, so Windrush v2 coming (the home office accepts that some people will never know/apply but the law as it stands means thousands of evictions in 10 years) means I am not impressed.

    I have PR, considering citizenship, but due to Dutch laws I have to marry my UK partner or lose my Dutch one. Shitshow all around.

  • I think this was an issue with Apple not allowing apps full access to NFC until the next version of iOS is rolled out (so it will have to be a fairly new iPhone too).

    It needs the access to read the chips in passports, etc so this one isn't necessarily on the government.

  • What concerns me is that there is no way they will get to 100% registration by 1 January 2021.

    If there is no NHS discretion to use other paperwork until people have their Settled Status sick people that don't want to risk a big bill will be turned away. (because even if you get a refund, how long will that take?)

    Luckily this is just a proposal...hopefully it won't happen.

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-4­9348072

    "Boris Johnson has accused MPs "who think they can block Brexit" of a "terrible collaboration" with the European Union." wow straight out of the authoritaritan right playbook, collaboration????

  • It's for people who look like this:

  • Some genuinely don't know (I got 0 info from the government, of course I am informed via the news but how many people don't know?)

    Alot of this

  • You will also require thousands of new admin staff in the NHS to perform these checks

  • And on-premise police to throw people (and their families) out who are not allowed to be treated.

  • Update from the Department of Clutched Straws.

    Hadn't travelled abroad for several years.
    EHIC card expired in 2018!
    Applied for replacement. Waiting for me when I returned home this pm.
    Expiry date of new card: August 2024.

  • Sorry for tiny image, not sure how that happened

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