This morning's commute (the 'ugh' edition)

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  • PROOF. That south London is more civilised. Probably.

  • Just now wondering if any ladies on here get much / any remarks / harassment / abuse?
    Had this guy the other day properly lurching over a lady on Vauxhall Bridge Rd - awkward.

  • When I first started cycling in London I'd get this white van signal at me every once in a while. I used to think there must be someone I know in it saying hi. So naive eh!

  • i started this thread because it was a daily occurrence and i knew it happened to other ladies as well. i don't wear particularly revealing or saucy clothes, i don't bat my eyelashes at men in ven or titter at their disgusting remarks (nb - absolutely no excuse at all for their behaviour, but some people have this awfully shortsighted opinion that women somehow "ask for it" where "it" is any kind of gross remark/behaviour) - i am a bog standard girl in jeans and a jumper waiting at the lights. i just wanted to ride my bike. but my commute was always, always subject to this input.

    i've had a lot of time off the bike, but last week i rode from home to the train station for the first time in a few months. i got (i kid you not!) fifty metres and i got a wolf whistle from some builders.

    weird observation - it NEVER happens on the brompton. only on traditional looking bikes. maybe the brompton looks dowdy?!

  • Well that sucks. Can't stand this sort of behaviour.
    Contemplates social cleansing

  • I did get wolf whisteled for the first time the other day and did find it kinda creepy - group of builders. But then realised later on I wasn't wearing any socks so - asking for it wasnt I?

    "ask for it" where "it" is any kind of gross remark/behaviour)

    I hope things are changing / updating. progress always slow it seems.

  • It's not really their harassment, but the mindset behind it that bothers me. Many many men see women as objects of pleasure. Many think it but not act on it. Some would not admit it in public. Some might be people you actually know. It scares me.
    And I'm quite sceptical about change because literature, the visual arts and entertainment are still full of male gaze giving us the wrong sense of normality. We're just raising another generation of pigs.

  • The chills is right, it's horrible to witness it happen. We might all disrupt it happening when possible. I mock letched at some harasser guys in a pointedly 'I don't mean this' face again the other day, not always clever if you're a scaredy cat like me.

    weird observation - it NEVER happens on the brompton. only on traditional looking bikes.

    So peculiar!

    I agree wih that piece Oliver linked to in the ES suggests, this feels like it should be properly addressed as hate crime like 'minority' target harrassment can be. So that police would be forced to respond 'this is a crime' rather than something utterly bleak like 'just enjoy it luv'.

  • Resurrecting this thread to say that, despite moving outside of London (ish) and pretty much dropping out of cycling, one of the first times I've ridden properly recently I got about fifteen seconds from my front door and a man in van actually slowed down to give him enough time to wind down his window and pass comment on me. I almost just went home again out of sheer exasperation. I pretended not to hear him

  • Hope that hasn't put you off going out on the bike again.

  • Months ago I got a ‘smile, love’ from two lorry drivers who I’d patiently waited for while they manoeuvred in the road ahead of me. I knew which site they were working on so I tracked down the Chief Exec of the lead contractor and complained directly. They took it seriously, said they’d put the firm the drivers worked for on notice, and called me to apologise. No punchline, and doesn’t really change very much, but was so nice for once to be taken seriously for once - pathetically that was all I wanted: someone to recognise that the behaviour was unacceptable. More companies doing that might start to chip away at the social acceptability of it.

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This morning's commute (the 'ugh' edition)

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