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Sale cancelled pending further test riding.

Thank you again all those who contributed - this is why i love this forum.

Jesus! whats with the R-Sys obsession amongst canyon owners !?

Haha they're the icing on the cake for sub 6.8kg climbing machine!

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Which Ardennes are they?

They're the original Ardennes - 1345g

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/reviews/hed_ardennes08

Few pics added one of Rolf's in situ and one stock image of Ardennes

Will get camera out later

Rolf's are 11spd compatible from what I can gather - I run 10spd with a spacer so seems legit.

Do you do interest free credit?

Do you do interest free credit?

Lol

Do you do interest free credit?

just for you TM - if you pay in hourly instalments over 24 hours

updated with pictures

after getting the old vernier calipers out - BOTH FREEHUBS ARE 10SPD

Haha they're the icing on the cake for sub 6.8kg climbing machine!

Seriously keep your Ardennes! Of all Mavic wheel sets r-sys has the highest warranty return rate... The obsession can be explained by the harshness of the Canyon frames... If you decide to go for the r-sys make sure a retailer is offering a full manufacturer's warranty...

Seriously keep your Ardennes! Of all Mavic wheel sets r-sys has the highest warranty return rate... The obsession can be explained by the harshness of the Canyon frames... If you decide to go for the r-sys make sure a retailer is offering a full manufacturer's warranty...

IMO keep your Ardennes and get 25mm (the frame clearance permitting) GP4000s (not GP4000s2 as they are slightly heavier) and Specialized Turbo Inner tube combo..

Dick is only interested in swag, weight is just an excuse, a means of justification....

Hummnnn, I've heard both sides of the story - the 'myths' that people have had their R-Sys run over by a car and the wheels and spokes are still intact after - the 'myths' that the R-Sys fuck up for fun! I work in a Mavic dealer so we have some good quick warranty guarantees.

I am still a little uncertain though, and I appreciate any input like that ma9n3t, thank you

With about 85g weight difference it's not about the weight, it's more the performance, and R-Sys are widely regarded as the best climbing wheel...

Not exactly the right place but can anyone offer some first hand experience of the R-Sys in comparison the the Ardennes, or perhaps in fact a long term test of the Ardennes over hilly terrain?

IMO keep your Ardennes and get 25mm (the frame clearance permitting) GP4000s (not GP4000s2 as they are slightly heavier) and Specialized Turbo Inner tube combo..

I've got 24mm Vittoria Open Corsa SR on the Ardennes - not yet ridden them on those tyres though.

Dick is only interested in swag, weight is just an excuse, a means of justification....

(Slightly true....)

I want Ardennes why I so poor?

And dick, how you afford so many nice things?! Thought you woz a student.

Down to 1 beik now TM - need to rationalise - poor student gonna want fix skidz again for winter.

I know a lot of r-sys owners and the common theme is that they do flex quite a bit especially on a steeper sections of a climb (high torque out of a saddle climbing). Bare in mind that the weight of a tyre/inner tube/rim/nipples/spokes (in this sequence) matter more than the weight of a hub. Wheel manufacturers tend not to specify weights of individual wheel's components. What I am trying to say ignore the overall weight of a wheel set and avoid carbon spoked shallow rim wheels as you tend to loose out on the lateral stiffness...

I've got 24mm Vittoria Open Corsa SR on the Ardennes - not yet ridden them on those tyres though.

You must try Vittoria OC SR with the latex inner tubes (ideally on a smooth road), bit pricey if you puncture but totally worth it. The cornering will be exceptional with the Ardennes as the rims are wider ones.

Hummn this is making me want to scratch this for sale thread completely!

I still feel out of the two I'd probably rather keep the Rolf's though. Genuinely the best all round wheelset I've ever ridden.

If you just want a set of new wheels for the trip then go for a pair of Ksyrium SLS C - good price/weight/lateral stiffness ratio and no carbon spokes