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Insane bargain - on the assumption it's well taught.
No complaints at all with the tutor, he has made it very clear that it will be an intense course as we only have 20hours, rather than the 40 hours of a week long course. Also it was recommended that we have a set of needle files and 80 grit emery cloth as there will be 2-3hours cleaning of joint to be done away from the workshop.
I would like to be on this too.
Dave Yates £2000 plus ~2 year waiting; Salford City College £215.
Can we organise a group buy and get the college to run another course?I'll ask the question to Darren on Thursday as he will be able to give a more accurate answer than ringing the reception desk.
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Week 3 - BB & Seat Tube
We received our frame kit this week, unfortunately I wasn't able to photograph the whole kit together as most components were still parceled up. Would have been pretty cool to have all components together on one picture, but oh well!The BB lug has been manufactured via a cast and therefor required some slight alteration to allow the seat tube to fit nicely, it would fit with a good amount of manipulation but this tight of a fit wouldn't help when it came to brazing.
Filing, checking, filing, checking.... 10mins later
Next job was to profile the other openings within the BB onto the tube, quite simply with a permanent marker. The BB threads are going to be re tapped at a later time due to all of the Flux and brass that will cover them.
Over to the welding/brazing area of the workshop. Lots of flux added to remove all of the offending grease/general shite on the lug and tube!
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After checking the pressure of the Oxy and Acetylene, time to play with fire! Uniformly heating the area concentrating more on the BB as this was thicker than the seat tube, once the tubing was glowing a cherry red brass was fed into the joint and manipulated throughout.
Unfortunately at this point we rang out of time and I had to stop for the evening, within the BB there is 360deg of brass but significantly more is required at the top surface
Lots of cleaning of the joint required this week to remove the excess burnt flux and brass!
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I would like to be on this too.
Dave Yates £2000 plus ~2 year waiting; Salford City College £215.
Can we organise a group buy and get the college to run another course?Insane bargain! If you can convince them to another course I'll definitely make the trip down from York for it.
Spoke to Darren on thursday and he said there will be another course run later this year but unfortunatly couldn't say which dates as yet.
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what's the story re frame design/geometry?
Next week the Tutor is going to take measurements and advise of the best size frame/geometry, the design of the lugs is fixed to what is received with the frame kit, managed to have a look at the other lugs and they don't look to bad!
would one need plans in hand to start, or, are the above discussed/encompassed in the course?
Admittedly I turned up quite bike wankerish with a print out of my Dolan Preffisio geometry hoping to match it as close as possible, this will be discussed again at the next session.
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Frame Building Course
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I’ve recently started a ‘Frame Building for Beginners’ course provided by Salford City College.
The course is planned to run over 10 weeks on Thursday evenings 1830-2030. The cost of the course is £65 + £150 for materials, personally I think this is a bargain! There are no entry requirements to undertake the course but I would say it’s beneficial if you have general DIY skills. The course can accommodate unto 8 people.
I will be building a fixed gear lugged frame with 4130 Alloy Steel.
My background, I have served a 4 year Engineering apprenticeship, 1 year of which was spent in a training school learning fittings skill etc.
I will be to use this thread to document my progression throughout the course:
Week 1 – Introduction
Introduction etc, general tour of the workshop, and learning how to produce a mitre joint with a half round file. Darren the instructor explained that a cutting tool could be used to produce the correct profile but would be cheating slightly in learning the skill. To finish the class we were shown how to safely operate the Oxy Acetylene equipment that will be used during the brazing of the frame.
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Week 2 - Brazing
Building on last weeks mitre skill, we produced another joint to be brazed. As this was most peoples first time brazing this took most of the evening, but was definitely worth taking our time to understand the process. Tacking both sides of the joint and then tinning the copper round the joint. The joint needs a good clean up but pretty happy with my first attempt.
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