Bike Theft Experiment - Youtube Video

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  • I can't verify it anyway.

    If I did the same experiment.. there would be very different results.
    Even if I replicated everything you did time & location - i'm less approachable whereas you look adorable.

    Its a 'real' world test of 'pretending' to steal a bicycle and I welcome it but it is not an experiment.

    so what should he be doing to make it an experiment?

  • Yeah i dont really understand your definition of experiment tommy..

  • all these old faces on about da jeans. cha. funny

  • so what should he be doing to make it an experiment?

    Should be wearing a long white lab coat. And safety goggles. Also where's yer Bunsen burner?

  • Preventing crime by committing crime. Excellent. As the law stands, you can't legally physically attack a thief (particularly not with what might be considered a deadly weapon) in order to prevent a crime.

    Bullshit.
    I am no lawyer but I do know that reasonable force is not just ethically justified [speaking for self] but legally justified.

    (1)A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders or of persons unlawfully at large.

    And in any case, I was proposing a threat, which in my experience has validated the idea that

    criminals are a cowardly sort

    Your point about the D-Lock being attached to my bike is however valid.

    @Fefelarue. You've not really answered my question. Why not do it with your own bike?
    Using people's property as a prop for your video without asking for permission is rude at best.

  • I think a lot of how people react is to do with you look.

    I had to cut a lock off my bike on great portland street once, nobody seemed to care.

  • That's because you're so goddam cute ;p

  • Aww means so much more coming from snorlax

  • Bullshit.
    I am no lawyer but I do know that reasonable force is not just ethically justified [speaking for self] but legally justified.

    Again, these things play out perfectly in one's own head. All it takes is for you to strike the thief and cause lasting or permanent injury, and the good old legal system will see to it that you're properly fucked. Unless you're willing to bet your house on it of course, in which eventuality the winner is one who passed the Bar exam.
    Have fun threatening people with lumps of metal.

  • Interesting. Any links to similar cases?

  • Yeah i dont really understand your definition of experiment tommy..

    Well I can explain as science was my favourite subject in school for more reasons than just the teacher was fit.

    An experiment is designed to provide a 'proof' between competing models or hypotheses.

    *if this is an 'experiment' what is your hypothesis and what have you proven, whats your control?

    Full disclosure I failed GCSE science after a dispute with my bitch science teacher over which paper I should sit even tho mock results proved the hypothesis that I was on it.

    Out of respect for science I no showed rather than take a GCSE for dummies test.

    ^^ get a room you two

  • Interesting. Any links to similar cases?

    might be worth looking up about tony martin.

    although i do agree - if someone was stealing my bike i would want to throw a punch at them at least. at the same time one punch can kill a person. then youre fucked, all over a bike.

  • ^^
    Ah, good ol' Mr Jenkins.....

  • ^^^ tony Martin shot a theif in the back with a shotgun. That's not quite the same as bashing someone with your non existent d lock

  • What Alkali said, death by shotgun is a pretty sever "lasting or permanent injury".
    Anything a bit lower scale?

  • @Fefelarue. You've not really answered my question. Why not do it with your own bike?
    Using people's property as a prop for your video without asking for permission is rude at best.

    The last one was with my bike.

    The other ones I did purely because they were there and I didn't want to keep moving my bike around.

    Also, I didnt want anyone to see me locking up the bike and then sawing it as it would have ruined the experiment.

    I guess I'm rude then..

  • Well I can explain as science was my favourite subject in school for more reasons than just the teacher was fit.

    An experiment is designed to provide a 'proof' between competing models or hypotheses.

    *if this is an 'experiment' what is your hypothesis and what have you proven, whats your control?

    Full disclosure I failed GCSE science after a dispute with my bitch science teacher over which paper I should sit even tho mock results proved the hypothesis that I was on it.

    Out of respect for science I no showed rather than take a GCSE for dummies test.

    ^^ get a room you two

    Unlucky, I got three As at GCSE science :P

    Hypothesis: That a large majority of people who see a potential bike theft will not get involved.

    I have proven that this is the case.

    I can't really imagine a way in which you could have a control on this test tbh, except standing there and not sawing anything.

  • Citizen Arrest ? ¨
    http://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/aug/­09/guide-to-citizens-arrest

    If that's directed at me mate, then yeah someone would be within their rights to start a citizens arrest, at which point I would have explained that I was not harming their property, and the cameraman would have come over to back me up.

  • Chung - you are entitled to use "reasonable force" to prevent the commission of crime, the force being proportionate to the crime.

    I suspect you would not be supported if you d-locked someone without first speaking to them and attempting a citizen's arrest. (D-locking from behind would likely be considered ABH or attempted GBH.)Then, when they resist, use force, but you have to catch the bugger first...

  • Since you could probably be shown to be able to prevent the theft by the use of
    a) Shouting to make them fuck off or
    b) grappling to remove them from the bike

    The additional use of a weapon is unlikely to be reasonable unless the thief actually threatens you or someone else with personal harm.

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