• Expensive bates for sale.
    Very old looking though, id say pre war and with some very interesting and complicated two speed gearing system.

  • Damn shame some moron's powder coated it, spoils the delicate feel of the lugs :-(

    1930's gear system, 15 "bob" at the time - not many here will get that ;-)


  • Got my old 1937 Raleigh Sports frameset up for sale - same 21 inch frame as shown here (not my photo) but has been powdercoated all black some years ago as the original paint was beyond even vague rescue (came rattle canned if I remember right). Thought I'd gauge interest here before taking to the bike jumble... will be cheap!

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  • Pair traditional black leather lace-up shoes, size 6, decent-looking, slotted cleats fixed to sole so I must have ridden them with the Campag Strada pedals and that's not this century!

    Free to collect from London NW6, £5 posted.

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  • Hi!
    I just purchased this early 1920s Italian frame labled "Ancora" (founded 1919 by Tacchini and Pracchi in Milano).

    Anyone has some more info on Ancora?
    I already asked Dale (classic rendenvouz) he has none.

    Best wishes from Berlin

    (Pics from the seller)


    After diggin around and reading an article on Ancora, I now can determine that my frame is actually from the early/mid 30s. Still I wonder how it might have looked like a whole bike :)

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  • A comfortable looking pair of cycling shoes - just my type, but not my size.

    An important point to note is that it can be disastrous to use shoe plates (cleats) which have been fitted for some one else. If your foot is forced into a position on the pedal which is not where it goes naturally, damage to the knee is a likely outcome.

    The recommended method for fitting shoe plates is to ride wearing the shoes without the plates far enough for the pedal to leave a witness mark on the sole, then use that mark to align the slot in the plate. A cobbler's last will be a big help when nailing the plate in position, which is itself a tricky operation.

    Although I still use leather cycling shoes I don't bother with shoe plates nowadays. They are a constant nuisance, making it difficult to walk and needing frequent maintenance. They are mainly useful for sprinting (which I never attempt now) and hill climbing. If you can 'ankle' even this purpose is not very relevant.

  • I've never been brave enough to try slotted cleats, mainly because I have to stop and put my feet down so many times on my commute. Firstly it would make getting my feet out difficult and, secondly, repeatedly putting my feet down at traffic lights etc tends to destroy exposed cleats very quickly.

  • You would never want to !
    It takes just one tiny lump of grit that you stand on that gets wedged in the slot, and you can't then get the back plate of the pedal to locate !? And when you stop to remove it, because by now you've forced it in with your entire body weight, you need a special tool - like the bit on a WWII army knife - to get the bugger out ;-)

  • A comfortable looking pair of cycling shoes - just my type, but not my size.

    Hmmm yh, this had not occurred to me. I just didn't want to bin them in a clearout, lest they be of use to someone else!

    Those cleats could be tricky even when you got used to them. I was riding along the canal towpath toward Greenford and had to brake sharply to a halt under a bridge cos someone was coming the other way —I had no time to reach down and flip the buckle to release the strap and toppled over with head hanging over the water. Not a good moment!

    I was not sorry at all when Look brought out clipless pedals. Riding them for the first time was a Damascene moment.

  • Learn to trackstand, is my advice. Pretty handy skill for the road.

  • Ive just asked for the frame number. Not sure it is a gillott.?

  • Yes ,Had another look at it - Top of seat stay looks like something other than a Gillott

  • It looks like a proper Fleur de Lys to me.
    Maybe fork is not a Gillot? but everything else screams Gillot.

    Reference Mark's own Fleur (albeit with windows in the lugs):


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  • Actually that seat stay is typical of Fleur-de-lys' Gillott frames

  • If I wasn't selling my frame and making space for kids, I'd have bought it already.

  • The seller says the frame number has been covered over with paint, which isnt helpful, its a real hodge podge of components and some of the lug detail doesnt look right. In particular the rear brake bridge strengthening, the lug detail around the head tube and bb bracket. I would definitely be wary.

  • The head lugs looks correct to me as do the seat stays.

    True the brake bridge reinforcement is a bit unusual.

  • You could be right @anidel, very tricky to tell without the frame number.

  • Anyone need any CL sprint pedals ?

    Reasonable condition,loss of chrome on spindle,RH pedal has a bit of play and probably rectified by a service.

    I'll send photos if anyone's interested.
    £35 posted in the UK.

    Sales thread with photos

  • Anyone looking for a decent 26" wheelset - Bayliss-Wiley hubs and Conloy rims.

    I used them for this project https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/3558­36/
    And the bike gets no use sadly and breaking it and selling some parts from it.

  • Possibly, but am short of funds though so likely will be beyond my means (having looked at them on the thread, they’re really nice)

  • Yeah and he could quickly check on the fork's steerer tube, but I'm sure he couldn't be bothered to do that.

  • Getting ready for my annual solo ride down to Goodwood on Saturday. It’s about 55 miles and I usually do it in vintage gear which is then my outfit for the day. I haven’t used the bike a huge amount in the last few months, but kept meaning to make a couple of saddle adjustments after my Wrights saddle tore. I rode it into work today to do that. I also remember thinking last year my tubs were looking a bit past their best and they’re definitely not looking much better now. Might pull one off another wheel and carry two spares to be on the safe side!

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Pre 1950s rides of LFGSS: old bikes, vintage rats, classic lightweights

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