Zeus Pista 1970/80's - "Poor mans Campagnolo" + "Lava Lo-Pro"

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  • Wassup Y’all.

    Here is the start of my first properly documented build, I always seem to forget and regret not doing one after I finish. I find there’s loads of good reads on, such as Kal_xyo’s in-depth Bennoto, build, and this has inspired me to try and do the same to a similar level of detail. I’m not the most patient person and find that this build is helping/making it worse (I tend to buy too much unnecessary stuff of fleabay because its cheap, then regretting it later) but I definitely won’t give in. My inner most secret about lfg is to have my bike in the porn section;-) But would really like to start training when Herne Hill opens back up next year.

    I bought the frame this spring for an early 21st birthday present. At first I thought it was definitely a Zeus frame but then once it arrived I had doubts. A couple weeks later my Brother track frame, which I built up with my uni bursary money, got stolen from inside the hallway to my flat. So it kinda just stayed in the corner unloved as whether or not it was worth restoring. As I had to build up my daily ‘commuter’ first, I forgot about it. The frameset was bought off ebay as a 53ctc Zeus Pista Track Frame and this is what I was told about it.

    numero de serie creo que no lleva pero no estoy seguro, estos cuadros no se hacian en serie sino expresamente para ciclistas, federaciones o clubs y por eso muchos no van marcados.

    Este concretamente se compró en Tortosa hace unos 15 años, luego lo use yo por un tiempo y el resto del tiempo fué guardado.

    Which in quick translation is it has no serial number due to it being manufactured to order, for clubs etc. It was originally bought in Tortosa - http://goo.gl/maps/8eusZ about 15 years ago and used by the owner and then kept in storage. It sounds pretty believable as from what I’ve researched about Zeus. I remember reading they stopped making frames during the wars and made weapons etc. for the Spanish army for a while. It was a bit overpriced for the state but just loved the dropouts and other subtle detail. I thought it would be nice to give back to the Spanish in their time of need with the recession and all that.

    Included was the bb, headset and what I thought was an original paint but turned out to be some sort of bright enamel orange with light metallic blue underneath. The Zeus bb was marked as 55x109p (not sure on threading for both) and runs buttery smooth. Headset parts could do with some re-chroming but spins decently well. The fork is stamped Zeus 2001 and underneath the orange paint was chrome.. meme of super excitement please.. Seatpost size is 26.2 which doesn’t really help identify it. Droupouts are all marked Zeus but the rear are in a very used state.

    While waiting for it to arrive I looked up the company as a whole and the parts they created. Some might say they just copied Campagnolo that’s another story. Looking up the catalogues I could find and tried to compare the scans to the photos of the frame. It was also interesting how seriously they took the whole drillium hype. Might be tempted to drill some bars and chainring Merckx stylee.

    Anyways, my final aim is to finish it to a pretty good standard, for this summer coming but at least have the parts. And maybe get a paint job after a season of riding as a treat for the hard work. Then once I have saved enough get the frame chromed a bit and get full repro decals paintjob etc. But that will be decided way further. Maybe something along the lines of this but definitely not finished in white, as it will just get dirty.

    That’s it for now as it’s late and should get some sleep in, but will be updating regularly with ebay buys and other things.

    Apologies for the long post but really should get into reading and writing more as it would do me good for uni.

    Thanks for reading.
    H

  • This sounds like a great project, and it's nice to see someone thinking outside of the usual campag box and going for full ZUES!

  • After taking off some of the paint to check for serial numbers etc. I decided to try and get rid of the orange paint and try an keep as much of the original blue as possible.. I realised it was going to be a lot harder than I thought but after a few weeks i got it looking like this

    I noticed that where the seatbolt clamps on was slightly deformed and would need to be closed up a bit. Might need to get it professionally done as Thats the last place I would like the steel to fail.

    The forks are quite pitted and look like they have been used a fair bit but look strong and straight. Will prob keep them like that as getting them done at London Chroming isn't within my budget atm.

    Heres a list of parts that im looking to acquire or already have.

    Stem - Cinelli Milano (in the post atm from spain)
    Handlebars - Cinelli Criterium (bought of the forum)
    Seatpost -
    Cranks - Zeus Pista
    Pedals - Zeus Pista, preferable the chromed version
    Got some Ducson made in spain toeclips from the ebay a good while back but they are still available with free postage worldwide


    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOS-Vintage-Du­cson-Grand-Prix-TOE-CLIPS-2x-Drilled-Chr­omed-LEroica-/300976553327?pt=US_Pedals&­hash=item461399bd6f

    Hubs & Cogs - Zeus Pista

    Really want to keep it as close to the original and spanish as possible so that means getting some Akront rims. Not sure about what other spokes I could use, so if anyone has any ideas then please let me know.

  • Nice project!

    One thing i'd say if you're planning on riding this a lot (and you probably already know this but if you don't...) is steel rims+rain=no stopping. Doesn't matter how good your brakes are, you'll be forced to skid which if it's wet isn't ideal either.

    i like zeus stuff, drilled bars and rings will look sexy too.

  • Follow through and it will look stellar. Subbed

  • amen!

  • preciosa la bici! Pinta genial el proyecto.

  • This sounds like a great project, and it's nice to see someone thinking outside of the usual campag box and going for full ZUES!

    Follow through and it will look stellar. Subbed

    preciosa la bici! Pinta genial el proyecto.

    Thanks for the comments guys! Yeah the whole Campagnolo thing is a bit much for me, I like the fact they are spanish and actually equally or even sometimes better than campy. I got that 'poor mans campagnolo' quote from a old thread on some website but I've seen it mentioned a few times. Im hoping to spend the bare minimum on pieces, I'd rather pay less an refurbish them myself than pay silly nos ebay prices.

  • Nice project!

    One thing i'd say if you're planning on riding this a lot (and you probably already know this but if you don't...) is steel rims+rain=no stopping. Doesn't matter how good your brakes are, you'll be forced to skid which if it's wet isn't ideal either.

    i like zeus stuff, drilled bars and rings will look sexy too.

    Thanks! I already got my daily ride, this would be the sunday best/track ride. I would like to hope this never sees rain but I think thats asking a bit much, especially in this country. The drillium thing I like but not when the wholes things been covered in holes, sometimes it looks a bit tacky. I would like to try an get a pattern on the bars and maybe a few holes on the rings, Im quite skinny so not too worried about them failing but would have to be properly thought and planned out.

  • Got a little package from spain today, managed to get take a few photos while the sun was out for once.

    All was good until I realised the stem clamp was slightly deformed, but for the price I'm not complaining (you wouldn't believe how much I paid if I told you, kicking myself for not getting two). Got it round again by sticking it on some old bars and clamping it super tight and leaving it for a while. Im not %100 sure if its the track version or road? As I cant think of anyway to measure the angle, my maths kit got thrown outta the window as soon as I left school.
    And heres a little suttin' until next time.

  • Looks like a pista, quite steep. I could be wrong though.

  • it is a pista. question is: did they have two models as in the newer lineup? like 2a and 3a both being track stems with difference in the angle

  • Spooky...... I just bought an almost identical Zeus pista, with an almost identical re-spray......although the seat tube stays wrap around rather than spoon.

    Fork is Zeus 2001, front an rear drop outs marked Zeus but no serial number either

    Brother from another mother......................in OZ


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  • Quick bit of research while I'm supposed to be doing boring uni work, proves that there are two models, one track and one road, but the track did have variations in degree. Heres a quote from Hilary Stone

    "Three basic stem designs were offered: road with 73 degree angle between quill and extension, the no 2 track stem with a 65 degree angle giving a slightly steeper drop, and the no 3 track stem, sometimes referred to as Sacchi in the 1950s and later called the Sprint, with a 58 degree angle and a very steep drop."

    Ive folded a piece of paper to a 45' angle. Then folded it to the angle where it matches the stem and at the ctc distance of 10cm it is 25mm from the 45' fold
    If anyone could make any sense out of that, could they work out the angle for me please? I would presume its the sprint version judging by eye?
    Used to be kinda good at doing origami penguins I'll have you know..

    http://www.giladorigami.com/P_Penguin_Ka­sahara_Mundo.JPG

    From bike pron, this is missing version 2 but still a good read.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qV9HVJYfWs4/Tt­jGkg5JKSI/AAAAAAAASuU/vFXWU3Q_p4E/s1600/­Cinelli%2B1958%2B1.jpg

  • Spooky...... I just bought an almost identical Zeus pista, with an almost identical re-spray......although the seat tube stays wrap around rather than spoon.

    Fork is Zeus 2001, front an rear drop outs marked Zeus but no serial number either

    Brother from another mother......................in OZ

    Spooky! Judging from the lugs and details, yours looks in much better shape than mine. I think mine was hand painted and didn't have the bb removed, whats the finish like? Is it a really weird and slightly flouro redish orange? Its hard to tell in the photos.
    Also do you happen to know what tubing it is?

    This guy on ebay got some decals for zeus if your interested, based in oz too. I really want that made in spain one, theres something about the font that makes me really want it.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zeus-set-of-deca­ls-choice-of-pre-70s-or-early-70s-Spain-­/300584411228?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash­=item45fc3a205c

    Would be interested in how yours get built up so keep us posted brother!!

  • I got these...

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261079823311?s­sPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1­439.l2648

    they have a very bling mirror section to them.....The frame is in pretty good condition, but with a pretty heavy powder coat that I am thinking of stripping back. Zeus lugs are so nice!! Mine is actually drilled for a rear brake, I was told it was a winter training frame.

    Really looking forward to watching yours progress, and will keep you posted with mine!!

  • I'm pretty sure it is 531

  • Turns out the cinelli criterium bar is 26mm clamp sized and the stem is 25.4mm. The clamping area is all fucked anyway so will sand that down at some point, make a plan to drill some holes, drill and then polish all shiny and that. This website gives a small insight on things but does anyone on here have any technical knowledge on doing something like this?
    Will prob only do the 52t and 49t Chainring, Bars and maybe seatpost.

    Will star on the bars, im thinking something along the lines of these. T

    Doing more research I've come across a few places saying its dangerous to drill bars, but how much weight/power stress does it take to break them if I was to drill them in a similar pattern to the top photo?
    I would imagine to drill less at the top than the bottom half to keep the stem to bar strength?
    I don't want it too look too tacky too, so maybe just some sort of gradual fade from the rear of the top of bars to the top of the bottoms as it will be hidden by the tape. Keeping the aerodynamics too (Like I know what Im talking about). Basically like the photo but in more of an triangle shape like this \/\/

    ---==:::{
    What you guys recon? Will draw up some ideas in the meantime

  • Got some track pedals in the post from ebay, they looked pretty battered but thought they could look pretty decent after a good polish.
    Bunked off uni for a bit and went to see an old friend with the right tools. Spent about a half hour on these using a polishing wheel, they're still not finished but will look decent after some dremel polishing on the inner sides. Heres some before and after photos.

    Not bad eh.

    Also started on the bars. Went for the straight holes with 3 on either side at the bottom. After the first few holes of 9mm all was going well, I was getting into the flow of it but realised I wouldn't be able to do the ones round the top curve with the drill press. Got as far up as I could so started then started on the right side. Then went for the 10.5mm and widened the bottom ones a bit. Did take some photos in process but they are all on my shitty phone.

    Two holes in and I started to find it was extremely hard to try and clamp the bar in a good place for the right side and lower the press and this happens. All was going alright then f*****d it right up, As much as I want to carry on its really not worth it, the holes are just too close together and really don't want to compromise my safety for what really is only a 'cool' idea that might look alright.

    I basically didn't clamp the bar in straight therefore that happened. Oh well.. need to get hold of a new pair now. If anyone has some going cheap, the more beaten up the better then let me know, don't want to spend more than £20max really.

    Also need to really look into the design again and the maths of how far apart the holes should be and work out an equal distance and width, so its roughly equal all around the bar.

  • Slowly but sure the pieces of the puzzle are coming together. Bought these off ebay for good price of 60 quid, they had some play when spun so just cleaned and re-greased them. Will have them polished up in the near future.

    http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w593­/BigH26/d885a62c-b535-4112-83ec-72069827­51a3_zps8133dfb7.jpg

    Took a few shots of the insides

    http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w593­/BigH26/DSC04531_zps5ad8c5d5.jpg

    http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w593­/BigH26/DSC04526_zpsc8f6d3d2.jpg

    Nice bit of engraving on the axle, heres a scan from the catalogue.

    http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w593­/BigH26/Page23_zpsda1b52bc.jpg

    Got a few things on the way in the post, won an Arius Imperator on ebay at a reasonable price, 8quid postage was a killer though :-( Sellers photos will do it more justice than my digital camera can.

    http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Spanish-A­rius-Imperator-leather-cycling-saddle-Co­ncor-Zeus-/00/s/MTA5OFgxNjAw/z/8jIAAOxys­stSXyJ8/$T2eC16N,!)EFIprVh0tGBS(yJ8O-F!~­~60_58.JPG

    http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Spanish-A­rius-Imperator-leather-cycling-saddle-Co­ncor-Zeus-/00/s/OTgwWDE2MDA=/z/cdMAAOxyf­pJSXyKL/$T2eC16R,!zgFIdvp6JbGBS(yKKgJtg~­~60_58.JPG

    http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Spanish-A­rius-Imperator-leather-cycling-saddle-Co­ncor-Zeus-/00/s/MTAzNlgxNjAw/z/IgUAAOxy2­HFSXyKS/$T2eC16Z,!ygFIjP8npbfBS(yKSO!t!~­~60_58.JPG

    Also does anyone know what kind of paint/ink is used for the Imperator stamp? as it could do with a bit of touching up. Im thinking maybe something oil based that wont stain or come off too easily. Also someone get this for me for christmas but in blue. Pretty please :-)

    http://a142.idata.over-blog.com/375x500/­3/81/57/38/Velo-ZEUS-1976/R-maillot-ZEUS­-new.jpg

  • this really is a great project, and props too for the documentation! looking fwd!

  • shame bout them handlebars.. really looked like quite well until that mishap.. dedication!

  • shame bout them handlebars.. really looked like quite well until that mishap.. dedication!

    this really is a great project, and props too for the documentation! looking fwd!

    Thanks :-)
    I know, but thats what happens when you loose concentration and try to work too quickly. Got some new ones from here all marked up and ready to have another go.

  • Production week at uni so its time to be productive..

    Well at least try.

    This is my treasure chest

    And here it is opened

    Bought some Christophe straps in what I thought was a natural brown but it turns out it was more of a essex fake tan orange cream colour... ugh.
    Took out my machete/scalpel and shaved it all off leaving just the raw leather which I think suits much more. Put them together and here they are.

    Polished up the cranks and chainring I got from Hilary Stone a good while back, not 100% smooth and shiny but much better that what they were. Also got the front hub done.

    Mums bought me some nail polish to give the inside of the holes a repaint. Will probably paint in the inside of the chainring and see what it looks like, kinda like this

    This guy did it with blue but it looks kinda horrible.
    Will also do the fork crown holes as that could look kinda funky in white rather than black. As the frame is most probably be painted in a similar shade of metallic blue.

    Took some photos in the last bit of light but most all came out blurry and sh*t. Should really be documenting it with a better camera as the pieces/bike deserves it but I don't really do digital.

  • Anyways,

    heres a small list of stuff I still need, if you do happen to see anything let me know and ill most prob buy it :-)

    Rims - Akront,Tubs or Clinchers

    Tyres - No idea what would be the 'period' correct, according to the sheet up top some d'alessandro leggerissimo. But find very little info on them on google.

    maybe these actually, anyone have any info please please let me know

    Seatpost - 26.2mm Zeus or Triplex,
    Could also be tempted with a 26.4mm for the right price, would sand it down to fit. If you got one holla.

    Misc. - Tubular holder, zeus bar ends (super want), jersey, cap, water bottle, musette. Most of this is just to have on my shelf for show and this just for zeus collector lols \/\/\/

    Will work towards having it ready to ride (with different wheels) by the Ldn to Cambridge ride. Alright, enough rambling, back to work for me.

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