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Tempted to drop the front end for the Felt with a track fork not drilled for brakes... price is right/location is close...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fork-for-700C-Road-Bike-/281064340399?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4170bd7baf

Nothing beats Risers when the roads are wet
Sooo much Fun.

what do you mean by "drop the front end", it's a 700c fork, isn't it? or would you just run a 650c wheel on it like on the keirin fork? either way, I would do it, fork looks dope for the price. I've never thought about how rain impacts handlebar choice, but I think I see what you mean, with risers you kind of rise above it.

This makes me want to scribble on the bottom of my schoolbag.

On risers my weight is further back, especially with the layback post... when the streets are wet its much easier to break traction so for some reason it helps me keep my weight on the back tire where all the action is

In dry weather i prefer to be in the drops as much as possible which naturally shifts my weight forward and makes me feel vulnerable to over steer in wet conditions

Im not a techy but i feel my experiences may help others to dial in their own Skills

I usually ride on the hoods with drops, so pretty similar to risers, did you get the forks?

Haven't made the plunge but highly considering for the Price

i dont really need em.... and after all the talk about risers on wet days

this is probably the guise for tomorrow nights Group ride

im gonna be drinking so its not gonna get too freaky

On the Bike.

"On risers my weight is further back, especially with the layback post... when the streets are wet its much easier to break traction so for some reason it helps me keep my weight on the back tire where all the action is

In dry weather i prefer to be in the drops as much as possible which naturally shifts my weight forward and makes me feel vulnerable to over steer in wet conditions

Im not a techy but i feel my experiences may help others to dial in their own Skills.

Call me old school, but I tend to shift the weight to the front when braking, particularly when riding brakeless. Then again I'm looking to ease the traction and I haven't really had problems with oversteering even in wet weather conditions.

I'm not a techy either, but i feel my experiences may help others to dial in their own skills.

Call me old school, but I tend to shift the weight to the front when braking, particularly when riding brakeless.

What school does that even come from? it's neither old, nor new.

Call me old school, but I tend to shift the weight to the front when braking, particularly when riding brakeless. Then again I'm looking to ease the traction and I haven't really had problems with oversteering even in wet weather conditions.

I'm not a techy either, but i feel my experiences may help others to dial in their own skills.

What school does that even come from? it's neither old, nor new.

I'm with Ed here, lifting your weight is only gonna decrease you deceleration*.
That being said I tend to lift a little when I whipskid just because I don't like rolling my private parts across the saddle...

*Or do you do it to put as little stress as possible on your precious tubs?

Or too tubby for his tubs.

"What school does that even come from? it's neither old, nor new."

Try making an emergency stop while going 55km/h with a 53/14 gear ratio brakeless... You will either shift your weight forward to reduce traction while braking i.e. skid stop, or the "old school" I'm talking about will deliver its credentials right there and then.

#donotlikefunerals

Or gear the fuck down.

you guys make me better... one more again before a wheel cleaning because of riding through fresh cement unintentionally of course

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Makes no difference really... Riding brakeless, shift your weight forward as you back pedal to make an emergency stop, end of. Alternatively configure your bike in such a way, that stopping will never become an issue - nor will speed, but hey ho...

Try making an emergency stop while going 55km/h with a 53/14 gear ratio brakeless... You will either shift your weight forward to reduce traction while braking i.e. skid stop, or the "old school" I'm talking about will deliver its credentials right there and then.

#donotlikefunerals

I managed that on 53/15 well enough, then did as Ed suggested and geared the fuck down.

Then again speed has never really been an issue with you from what I understand. Why not equip your Dolan Seta with mudguards and racks back and front, bell, reflectors and so on, and why not a trailer while you're at it, before you get tempted to ride just for fun? Remember the safest and easiest way to brake or slow down, is never getting up to speed in the first place.

Makes no difference really... Riding brakeless.

Yes it does, it take very little effort to resist the cranks on 48/19 compared to 52/16 (my first gearing).

Remember the safest and easiest way to brake or slow down, is never getting up to speed in the first place.

Or spin as quickly as pulling out of a fattie.

"Yes it does, it take very little effort to resist the cranks on 48/19 compared to 52/16 (my first gearing). Or spin as quickly as pulling out of a fattie."

I'm a masher by nature, I can spin, I am by no means good at it, but I can spin when I have to. For most everyday rides I would typically go for a 49/16 or 49/17 gear ratio, but needless to say I can't cruise (read cruise) much above 30-35km/h...

Discarding rush hour London commutes and pub rides and so on, what do you consider cruise speed with a 48/19 gear ratio? As implied, I fully acknowledge that never getting up to speed in the first place, eliminates most issues relating to stopping or slowing down.

34-36mph? that's about 170-175rpm, hardly spinny (and brakeless too, brakeful definitely higher).

it's nice to see you guys making a fist of having a real conversation about braking and gear ratios in this thread... sort of ruins it though

i stop quicker with my weight on the back wheel and have to skid more frequently in wet conditions

Plus i feel more prone to keeping skids to a minimum in the Dry to conserve my back tire

less energy is wasted when skid/skip stopping than fighting momentum with back pressure... Excluding topping out on gear ratio

wear a helmet

34-36mph? that's about 170-175rpm, hardly spinny (and brakeless too, brakeful definitely higher).

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm a masher by nature, I can spin, I am by no means good at it, but I can spin when I have to. For most everyday rides I would typically go for a 49/16 or 49/17 gear ratio, but needless to say I can't cruise (read cruise) much above 30-35km/h...

Discarding rush hour London commutes and pub rides and so on, what do you consider cruise speed with a 48/19 gear ratio? As implied, I fully acknowledge that never getting up to speed in the first place, eliminates most issues relating to stopping or slowing down.

I'm now on 51/20 learning to spin.

34-36mph? that's about 170-175rpm, hardly spinny (and brakeless too, brakeful definitely higher).

Remember Lynch talks in KM/h.