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• #2002
Urgh. I figured it might be a step up from a smashed iPhone 4...
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• #2003
Wife just received an email from Sainsburys telling her their records show she bought some sliced beetroot which may be from a batch that has been recalled. That's good/bad?
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• #2004
Turn off location services, turn off wifi, use Firefox w/ uBlock Origins or Ghostery or Tor for browsing.
Get NetGuard VPN and buy "view blocked traffic log" and "filter network traffic" PRO features. Then blacklist everything and only whitelist stuff you know your apps need to work.
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• #2005
At least you can control what Android does unlike iOS
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• #2006
Wife just received an email from Sainsburys telling her their records show she bought some sliced beetroot which may be from a batch that has been recalled. That's good/bad?
It's the joy of a Nectar card. They get your purchase history to mine, you get targeted deals and money off. Using it for something like this isn't bad, but that's starting from the basis of them recording everything you've ever purchased (which isn't good).
It gets very bad if that data about your purchases get given to insurance companies and you start paying more due to unhealthy eating/drinking habits.
Even if you dumped the Nectar card they could still continue to track any purchases made with credit/debit cards (since links will exist between those cards and previous purchases made with Nectar).
(Even if you started paying cash they could probably get good matches using mobile phone tracking - SSID polling within branches, or facial recognition from the self pay terminals, etc. But that's all a bit tin foil hat for Saino's, there are some people that do it though.)
GDPR kicking in on May 25th will really shake up this kind of thing. Mostly because they'll have to justify why they want to keep this data (and can't just collect data for the sake of it) and also have to get your permission to share it with anyone (so we should find out who they've been sharing it with already). This should obviate the need for dumping Nectar or paying cash.
My guess is that stuff like Nectar will be massively diluted after GDPR as the data becomes impossible to collect/keep/sell, especially as GDPR explicitly prohibits data collection in return for extra favours. (I plan on redeeming my £60 worth of Nectar points before May 25th just in case they dilute existing points.)
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• #2007
Why are Youtube recommendations so bad? They must have decades of my viewing habits and still push me 5 year old stuff I already watched beside 2 week old stuff I already watched.
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• #2008
As expected side stepped the entire thing.
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• #2009
How does that even work? Isn't GDPR applicable to anyone who gathers data about someone living in the EU, rather than where the data is stored
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• #2010
Well, at least the algorithm is not driving you to the "internet's darkest corners"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-youtube-drives-viewers-to-the-internets-darkest-corners-1518020478
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• #2011
If someone comes over from Australia and takes UK based cycle training do you make sure they wear a helmet to be compliant with Australia law?
Being the way the internet is they are making a choice to interpret your typing facebook and accessing an American site as you using the internet to broadcast out and "travel" to America to access services.
If you went on holiday and had data stored about you while on holiday they aren't obliged to change anything based on you being from the EU.
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• #2012
How does that even work? Isn't GDPR applicable to anyone who gathers data about someone living in the EU, rather than where the data is stored
This is about moving the non-EU citizens data away from FB Ireland to FB USA.
The data on EU citizens will remain in Ireland so there's no change in terms of GDPR.
The concern is that the US privacy laws are less strict (even for non-EU citizens) than Ireland/EU privacy laws. Privacy experts from lots of other countries (e.g. Australia, New Zealand, etc) are concerned about this move, when the data on their citizens was in Ireland they were relatively happy that it could not be messed with that much, moving it to the US erodes their trust a bit.
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• #2013
moving the non-EU citizens
How do they identify them? Based on claimed location?
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• #2014
That's not how it works. Even if the servers are entirely US based and you're a .com, if there's an expectation that EU citzens are using it, or you're providing services to EU citizens then you're balls deep in GDPR.
"Under the new regulation if you process data while offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the EU then you are a data controller subject to EU regulation."
So, if you're entirely hosted http://www.sexwithmidgets.com in the US but you have a Spanish version of the page or targeted content to Polish, then you're all up in GDPR.
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• #2015
Apologies for such a glib reply! Maybe have a look at LineageOS or rooting the phone so you can install a system-wide ad/tracker blocker.
Of course if you're using Google's services, they'll be using some statistical stuff anyway...
For that, you can go to your Google account settings and tweak some privacy stuff so you at least don't get targeted advertising. It's not the perfect solution but it makes things just that little bit less creepy :) -
• #2016
So, if you're entirely hosted http://www.sexwithmidgets.com
How come that domain name is still up for grabs?
(Would make a neat tinyURL)
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• #2017
But what can you do?
The EU can't extradite and charge Facebook. They could block them somehow but likely to outrage from citizens(?). Much as I like the idea of great privacy laws worldwide executed by a block of countries I just can't see them having a way to be internet police when it doesn't happen.
Facebook and other big names will obviously do token stuff but a big part of the funding model that makes them viable is based on selling user data in various forms.
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• #2018
FB may lose access to large chunks of revenue if they don't fall into line with GDPR.
"Data Processors" (GDPR terminology) in the EU that receive data from FB would be liable for big fines if they don't follow GDPR properly. This places many requirements on the "Data Controller" (FB in this case) so it doesn't really matter if FB are outside the EU, they end up having to comply with lots of it if they want to do business within the EU.
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• #2019
International law ain't exactly my forte but I'm pretty sure they'd work out a way to take someone to court for it. GDPR will allow fines to be issued that are 4% of globale revenue - that's a massive chunk. Presumably they have the legal powers to enforce it otherwise why would everyone be scrambling to be GDPR compliant?
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• #2021
The scramble doesn't appear to be around changing what they do but more to define that how they do it isn't illegal or create more divides between the various parts of the company and use them more clearly so it's business as usual. FB-EU won't make a huge amount of global revenue since all the fun stuff will be with FB-USA or even FB-shadydatacompany. No reason if you have 20+ companies across the world to have them all GDPR compliant if you can divide them up and continue trading as normal.
For most others they do have tangible goods, amazon for example they could really mess with the delivery of a 55 gallon tub of lube or even seize the lube(I'm sure they have other products too but that's the first that came to mind).
https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Lubes-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant/dp/B005MR3IVO?th=1
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• #2022
Their current scramble is to fix their tumbling share prices after they lost millions of their user's records... GDPR is probably a distant issue for them.
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• #2023
Searched this thread but to no avail..
..what messengers are people using? Like, ones with "privacy"?
Tried to get friends on board of wire with underwhelming success (people are using WhatsApp).
The few people who care somewhat and don't use WhatsApp do mostly have a telegram account -
so checked this out recently, and was surprised that I'm automatically shown as available to other people (who have my number) without being asked whether to show / hide this, also I'm "call-able" by people who have my number (from another person).
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• #2024
Also I got mail from a company called "abine", apparently the people behind DoNotTrackMe, MaskMe, Blur, DeleteMe.
Their website looks a bit funky and I don't remember having used any of their apps / firefox extensions / whatever.
Are these trustworthy?
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Well_is_it
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@Velocio
Don't use android for a start...