700x28C tires on gazelle champion?

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  • Hi,
    Can anyone tell me if there is enough clearance to fit 28c tyres and fenders on the Gazelle Champion Mondial?

    Thanks in advance,
    RL

  • Depends on the age of the frame and the frame type.
    If the frame/fork have been made for 39/49mm brakes, it's nearly impossible.
    In case you have older stuff and brakes of 47/57mm, it's possible, but still not easy.
    Only if it's more that this (randonneur, older Semi Race for centrepull brakes), there's enough clearance.

    No problem for a number of A, Randonneur, CX and Semi Race frames (all Champion Mondial).

  • also depend on the tyres too, some tyres measured out bigger, some smaller.

  • Thanks "Dutch Cheese"!

    I'm thinking on project for a steel "rough road" bike with modern components (not cyclocross, these are difficult to find) based on a gazelle champion mondial frame.

    RL

  • If comfort that important, run a wider rims and 25c tyres to give you similar comfort of a 28c.

  • This is my one.
    It has acres of space for big tyres .
    Fitted with 20mm in pics here but i have tried 28mm Contis without problem and easily enough space left for guards. I've even had 30mm Schwalbe cross tyres on.
    http://www.lfgss.com/thread44944.html

  • Thanks "Dutch Cheese"!

    I'm thinking on project for a steel "rough road" bike with modern components (not cyclocross, these are difficult to find) based on a gazelle champion mondial frame.

    RL

    Then better look for an older "semi race", centrepull brake compatible.
    Even the older race frames and newer semi race for 47/57mm brakes are tricky to set up with fenders, even with 25mm tyres.
    Sometimes these (complete) bikes are pretty cheap any well maintained.
    Check www.marktplaats.nl frequently.

  • I'll agree, my late 80's frame have brake drop for 47/57mm brakes, great with 32c tyres, but with fenders, just about managed it with 25c annoyingly.

  • Thanks edscoble ! - to share your experience on that.

    The problem is easiest resolved, if I find a Gazelle Champion Mondial Cross or Gazelle Cross Trophy...

    [URL="http://www.lfgss.com/member1317.html"][/URL]

  • Note that Gazelle CX frames and forks don't have eyelets.
    May be a problem to fix the fenders stays.
    I don't like clamps. Maybe you can use the small triangles in the rear dropouts. But for front...

    What size are you looking for ?

  • Following your advices, now I'm looking for 53/54 frame size (seat tube, center-to-center) Champion Mondial A frame.

    But, I think that gazelle frames sizes are measured center to top of the seat tube.

    The idea, is to have a bicycle, vintage frame with modern components (basicly 9-10 rear speeds with ergo shifters) ready for rough road, commuting and light touring...

    Also, I can consider buy a complete bike and modify later.

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