Cycle campaigning

2 points from this:

1) The need to be everywhere now if not before (esp. so in bigger cities) regardless of mode exacerbates all the issues facing vulnerable road users.

If everyone could be encouraged to chill out (in a less haste sense not more spliff) a bit then we'd be along way to "going dutch", without need to redesign the infrastructure or rules of the road.

2) Isn't the IAM a group that will be critical of their own? Institute of Advanced Cyclists might be a bit pointless, however you only need browse the "calling out bad cyclists" thread here to see some examples of the fuckwittery going on & people's reactions to being told so, usually as they know best & are in a hurry...
also excellent points

excellent points

also excellent points

excellent points

excellent points

excellent point

absolutely this. I had no knowledge that this even existed prior to visiting LFGSS and I've been a regular rider since childhood (30+ years). But then I'd never looked for info either. Talking about cycle training on here is a bit like preaching to the converted, though everyone will benefit from an element of training, whether they are willing to admit it or not.

LFGSS didn't know it existed before VeeVee started going on about it, either. :)

excellent point
pointless, or excellent jibing?

Just being silly. :)

its all too slow this change for my liking, damage is done
and now theyre pushing electric cars

fuck cars. fuck em all.

fuck cars. fuck em all.

Excellent point - all you need to know - happy new year.

LB Barnet has long needed a campaign group and one has now formed, allied to the the LCC.

Barnet Cycling Campaign aims to build a better biking borough. Please visit our website and vote on what you think the focus of our first campaign should be. You can also subscribe to the site to be kept up to date with actions the group are taking.

www.barnetlcc.com

LB Barnet has long needed a campaign group and one has now formed, allied to the the LCC.

Barnet Cycling Campaign aims to build a better biking borough. Please visit our website and vote on what you think the focus of our first campaign should be. You can also subscribe to the site to be kept up to date with actions the group are taking.

www.barnetlcc.com
good work

fuck cars. fuck em all.

Won't one burn one's 'gentleman's equipment' on the exhaust pipes?

bit long, have only skimmed bits, seems one of the main campaigner writers is putting blog-pen down, with parting shots pro "sustainable safety":

http://hembrow.blogspot.com/2012/01/campaign-for-sustainable-safety-not.html

Won't one burn one's 'gentleman's equipment' on the exhaust pipes?

Go for the fuel filler cap. The burns are slower to come on and only chemical in nature.

just to add a comment to the debate combining the 'Hull casualty reduction' and 'filtered permeability' ideas.

The Hull 20mph zones, as I expect many people here know, were self-enforcing (not just limits) - there are miles and miles of speed humps in Hull. Maybe seven or eight years ago, I listened to a presentation by the engineer behind the Hull schemes. I asked him if they had considered, rather than speed humps, a series of linked road closures, with ped-cycle crossings where they were at main road junctions.That would deal with rat running, make cycling and walking quicker for short trips and also avoid the pressure on revenue spending that maintenance of humps incurs. They hadn't (so it was a long question with a short answer!)

I like the idea of 'car-free' streets but I can't imagine they could be nearly as widespread as a network of dead-end streets with cycle exemptions.

Absolutely. Why deny car access? Cars are very useful things, used to pick up heavy things from houses among other useful purposes. Deep penetration of fine-meshed transport networks by through motor traffic is what causes most of the familiar problems. Pretty much every town or city that has ever increased cycling significantly or at least managed motor traffic better has introduced some measure of filtered permeability, at its most successful in cities like Groningen (although that includes a lot of one-way streets) or Ferrara (although they never consciously seem to have had a pro-cycling policy, it's just in the culture of the town), or improved permeability for cycling. Applying a concept consistently as in Hull is a good thing; the nearly-full network coverage in itself achieves a lot. Back when Hull stormed ahead, 20mph zones were the thing to do, but yes, thinking has moved on a bit since then.

Interesting prog on radio 4 right now (tues 9pm) about shared space street design theory.

missed it. shared space is interesting -just try not to get too many blind folks in on the debate...

Missed it ^^
Will have a listen later.

Interesting prog on radio 4 right now (tues 9pm) about shared space street design theory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b018xs8t

One thing they've got a petition about at the moment is to reject calls for mandatory helmet laws. I don't want to get into a helmet debate, but check out the link if interested.
www.cycling-embassy.org.uk/news/2011/12/22/reject-calls-mandatory-helmet-laws

This is worth a repp / bump / flag in everyone's faces. Helmet compulsion peeps are trying to get a motion passed at the Women's Institute. If passed, one of Britain's largest campaigning groups (the WI) will be pushing for mandatory helmet laws here in the UK (and trust me, some of these ladies are really pushy!)

The letter the Cycling Embassy has written encouraging the WI to look at the issue with fresh eyes is well worth a read, and they are inviting co-signees. Today, the thousandth person added their name. Not bad for a few days of online work for a small and new cycle campaign, I think ;-)

http://www.change.org/petitions/to-reject-calls-for-compulsory-helmet-laws

As this is a thread about cycle campaigning, I thought it was worth focussing on a live issue that many of us can agree on, rather than going too far down the "rights vs wrongs" of campaign approaches.

^ nice one Mark - thanks for reminding me of this!

oh dear, they have a picture of me on the petition!

They have a picture of a female model, with you in the background love.

From some blog sorry if its a repost- I dug it

Rail passengers and car drivers were today outraged by the unfairness of the transport system, as it was annouced that cycling fares would rise by a paltry 0% in 2012, remaining at £0.00. Rail fares are to rise by 5.9% in January, while petrol prices remain as high as drivers' stress levels.

M. Iserable, a spokesperson for People Who Don't Cycle, told Cycle Lifestyle magazine: "I don't see why cyclists should get such a good deal. Cycling already costs nothing, and now prices have been frozen at nothing.
["When you consider the fact that cyclists also benefit from getting fitter, healthier and happier, the 0% fare rise is a real slap in the face for other transport users. With average commuting distances only 8.5 miles in Britain, it seems that just about everything is geared towards helping cyclists[No cyclists were available to comment - because they were all too busy pedalling joyfully through the streets for free

Not sure if this is entirely the right thread but these seem like a good idea...

http://www.fastcoexist.com/1679076/what-to-do-when-youre-doored-fill-out-a-bike-accident-report-card