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  • Makes sense.

    Just completed by entry for GBDURO, fingers crossed etc.

  • How do people train for long multi-day rides on the turbo? Long, low intensity? Shorter, high intensity but more of them? Mix of the two? We're at the peak of crap weather here so today anything other than the valleys were a mix of slush and ice and the valleys were soaked/flooded and covered with debris so it's a bit shit for riding so I'm back to the turbo

  • Long turbo rides are shit.

    Unless your winter lasts so long you can't physically ride outdoors enough leading up to your event I'd be sticking with 1-2 harder sessions a week and fill the rest with whatever easy endurance stuff you can cope with mentally.

  • It's why I asked really... I just usually do 1-2 hour hard rides in winter outside then just do a load of low-mid effort stuff indoors. It's fine for every day riding fitness but I'm planning a couple of longer trips in early summer that I want to build for.

    We're around 0 to -2 degrees here at the moment, will drop to -5 to -10 days in a few weeks for a month or so. The roads are usually clear enough for shorter high intensity rides but longer ones are problematic.

  • Without knowing how you personally respond to high volume indoor training it's hard to say.
    Were you fit enough for long stuff in the past off what you did? If so, why not do the same?

    Flip side is, if you don't know, there's one way to find out... after the year then you'll know if you can you do lots of volume on the trainer without going mad and selling all your bikes.

    Whatever happens you'll learn something :)

    Personally I can't stand long slow turbo - I've done it a few times in the past and it does nothing except make me hate the turbo more (and that mental energy could've been used better elsewhere). Nowadays I want to bang out max 2hrs and I want it to be hard enough that I have to focus on it and such that the time passes and I'm "involved" and I can get off and do something actually fun, like sink piss in front of the TV (or count calories in your feckin' recovery shake, whatever floats your boat).

  • Reverse periodisation. Hard, horrible type 2 turbo fun when the weather is shite in winter. Long, sunny sausage rolled filled rides in Spring to build in some conditioning for bike position. Throw in a bit of gym and stretching.

  • Yeah, it also means your longer rides end up closer to your long event. Leave enough time for recovery and you've got your specificity close to your long goal event. I've moved towards this in recent years and make basically the same power even though I'm older and fatter. Then you just buy faster toys to make up the difference ;)

  • And don't take yourself too seriously or it quickly stops being fn and becomes a chore.

  • Reverse periodisation. Hard, horrible type 2 turbo fun when the weather is shite in winter. Long, sunny sausage rolled filled rides in Spring to build in some conditioning for bike position. Throw in a bit of gym and stretching.

    I think this is definitely the way to do it and is my plan now - having tried most of the alternatives.

    I used to just do long rides and not bother with turbo at all. That worked ok but I probably could have been faster if I'd done some harder sessions.

    Then - after we had a baby = much less time for long rides, I tried to do much more turbo and far fewer long rides. I actually got fitter that way but lack of long rides meant my conditioning wasn't there which led to issues and a DNF in TCR.

    EDIT I actually tried a third method which was basically hardly ride at all and just rock up at the start and rely on experience and long term base fitness. That worked, but it was a bit painful and clearly sub-optimal.

  • Good luck!

    I have to say, based on how things have been playing out, a UK ride looks like the most sensible option.

  • Hard, horrible type 2 turbo fun when the weather is shite in winter. Long, sunny sausage rolled filled rides in Spring to build in some conditioning for bike position

    You had me at sausage rolls... I guess I better do some sort of miserable turbo session once I've finished my work then

  • Just stuck mine in too! Not sure if I'm being overly ambitious for my first Ultra but I really hope I get in. Picking a UK race is certainly seeming sensible now anyway...
    Do you think they'll cap the entrants at a certain number? Already 116 (based on IG posts)

  • Good luck with your entry.

    I guess everyone that has done an 'ultra' is doing there first at some point, so as an organiser you might have in mind to have a percentage of first timers in the field. Hopefully they will look at broader cycling experience as well, not just if you have completed an event beginning with 'trans'.

    I think there were 30 riders for the first event in 2019, and less last year due to the self sufficient element. I imagine they will want to be growing the event to some extent but at the same time they won't want to go too big. Somewhere between 40 and 60 riders on the start line seems feasible to me, no idea though really(?)

  • What do they mean by 'commercial premises' in the handbook?

  • Good luck to you too. Yes, echo your thoughts on entries, I guess they need to make sure they have enough camping/ sleeping space at the checkpoints too

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