Gyratory traffic schemes, extended one - way systems etc

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  • Should we be campaigning for their removal? They're horrible for cyclists and peds alike, and don't seem to make motor traffic flow any better than normal road priority areas. Witness how much nicer Shoreditch became about 10 years ago when the priorities got revised away from a large one-way triangle.

    My sub-level discussion topic: how scary is Wandsworth Gyratory to cycle?!?

  • I should point out another specific reason why they're awful: they seem to me to engender aggressive, selfish, and reckless driving and increase vehicle speeds, very noticeably.

  • I can't see them being removed, though it would make for a good job creation project. But it will screw traffic flow whilst it happens.

    As for Wandsworth yeah it can be daunting. Going around a single section is easy, but I avoid going across, I use the cycle path.

  • I should point out another specific reason why they're awful: they seem to me to engender aggressive, selfish, and reckless driving and increase vehicle speeds, very noticeably.

    Yes, and yes. I still don't have a solution.

  • They have removed Shoreditch, and New Cross gate systems. It's not unfeasable that they should be got rid of.

  • I should point out another specific reason why they're awful: they seem to me to engender aggressive, selfish, and reckless driving and increase vehicle speeds, very noticeably.

    This is true, however campaigning from a cyclists point of view would probably be in vain, as most of the big gyratories in london have "cycle bypasses" already, no matter how inadequate/stupid they may be.

  • ^Russell Square also nearly two way again

  • From my work I have seen a great deal of political will for getting rid of the Aldgate gyratory, from all quarters of the City of London (planning, transport, built environment, economic)

    It would appear tis a matter of funding.

  • Bet Charlie LCC and Oliver Schick would argue well for their removal.

    Hammersmith is a nightmare too. New Cross still has a remnant at the Deptford end that's awful. Aldwych is a joke. Parts of Clapham suffer too. Archway has one I hate. They're all, without exception, anti-cyclist.

  • They also lend themselves well to direct action!

  • Tulse Hill
    Brixton St Matthews
    Elephant/Lambeth/Blackfriars Road
    Parliament Sq
    Camden Town
    Tottenham Ct Road/gower street/Centrepoint

    God there's loads!

  • From my work I have seen a great deal of political will for getting rid of the Aldwych gyratory, from all quarters of the City of London (planning, transport, built environment, economic)

    It would appear tis a matter of funding.

    Underlined seem to contradict each other don't they! Politics IS money.

  • New Cross still has a remnant at the Deptford end that's awful.

    Heading from town to Forest Hill the main problem with this junction is the traffic coming in from the east by the amersham arms: the cars and trucks keep streaming through long after the traffic coming from the west has a green light. It seems they can't cope with the idea of having to wait another 20 seconds for the lights to come round to green again for them, and would rather mow down other road users. And of course they reckon it's worth accelerating across the red light, as if it would make a difference that the light had only been red for 4.73 seconds rather than the 5 seconds it would have been if they hadn't accelerated through the red. Donkey-felching cockwombles, the lot of them.

  • They also lend themselves well to direct action!

    I agree! Could we get a flashmob together tonight at Aldwych and Vauxhall?!?

  • I reckon you could make that junction nicer (going the other way) by reducing it to one lane, as it stands some cunt is always trying to zoom along in the right hand lane, then cut into the left.

    To be honest most double lane/one way roads have this issue.

  • I agree! Could we get a flashmob together tonight at Aldwych and Vauxhall?!?

    Great idea!

  • Yeah!

  • Twit^

  • Seriously does no-one else think we could maybe start stepping up the pressure? Two riders today down at notorious one-way systems ...

  • 19 post in total and 11 from you skully (plus one saying yeah!). Why not breath for a bit and see if anyone gives any input before getting overexcited!

  • Haha yeah

  • The southern roundabout at the E&C is loads better than it was a year or so ago. However, you couldn't pay me to ride round the northern roundabout - it's appalling how often you see emergency crews in attendance. The problem, as always, is money.

  • A bunch of motorcyclists regularly protested against (I think) parking charges in Westminster by doing laps around the roundabout just South of Trafalgar Square. It completely fucked traffic in the area with only twenty or so of them.

  • I agree! Could we get a flashmob together tonight at Aldwych and Vauxhall?!?

    Yeah Vauxhall is pretty scary more so than Wandsworth.

  • They have removed New Cross gate......

    Which bit / where was changed Mr Skulls? Do you mean the besson st / bit round by the montague etc? I loathe the loop of Amerham Rd / Lewisham way / New Cross Rd, esp if you are riding West. The obvious place to be is in the left lane after the Amersham so as to head for the buslane, but then fast moving left turning cars heading for Lewisham way tend to cut across agressively as you begin to flow round to the right. If you position yourself on the right at the lights, then the traffic often flows either side of you which tends to be fairly unpleasant as well.

    On an unrealted note, as an SE cyclist, do you agree that the new bikelanes on Southwark Park Rd / Grange Rd will be fucking awful once installed?

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