Bikepacking - a viable alternative to racks & panniers

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  • How is the Cranktank4 water carrier shown in your picture -- stability, does it mark the frame paintwork over time, amount of suction required to drink via the tube etc.?

  • it's from this article, which was linked in an earlier post https://bikepacking.com/bikes/tour-divid­e-rigs-2021/

  • it's from this article, which was linked in an earlier post https://bikepacking.com/bikes/tour-divid­e-rigs-2021/

    Thanks. The Cranktank4 looks like an interesting concept, albeit rather heavy at 480g.

  • Prepped for a little 3 day trip around Loch Earn, Loch Tay and the surrounding areas.


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  • Sleep kit in the fork bags? What carrying?

  • Half a 2 man tent in the seat pack, sleeping back and roll mat in one anything cage, clothes and jacket in other anything cage.

    Frame bag for spares, riding clothes, tools, 2nd water bottle.

    Handle bar bag for snacks.

    Top tube bag for camera.

  • Quite a bulky frame bag. My knees would hit that.

  • Great setup so far and a most excellent camp spot :)


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  • Looks familiar! Next to Loch Tay, outside Killin?

  • On your way to destroy the One Ring?

  • Anyone packrafted before? Thoughts/ideas/suggestions on where to look or brands to look out for? Quite fancy lazily floating down rivers/across lochs given the current state of things!

  • Beg or borrow. A good one is £1000. Maybe ebay. I am sure they're are cheaper, but not sure id want to be out in something cheap. I bought a kokopello rogue spray deck, not used it near as much as I'd have like yet.

  • Like this?


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  • 😂 Whilst that does look fun, was more on the lines of what @skinny was on about!

    Thanks for the pointers @skinny, had seen they were pricey and didn’t know if that was “cottage industry pricey” or “that’s the cost pricey”!

  • I bought mine from packraft adventure, very helpful and nice. They do trips and courses, which id love to do.

    https://instagram.com/packraft_adventure­?utm_medium=copy_link

  • @PhilDAS luckily my ring survived pretty much intact.


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  • Funnily enough we past you today going in the opposite direction!

  • Anyone packrafted before? Thoughts/ideas/suggestions on where to look or brands to look out for? Quite fancy lazily floating down rivers/across lochs given the current state of things!

    Maybe you might like to look at folding kayaks as well. There is a strong tradition of expedition touring with them. I have a Klepper which I have used both at sea and for river touring. Feathercraft are also another well respected brand. Both makes are expensive new, but can be found on the used market as they last for decades.

  • Small world! Great roads and weather today.

  • Sounded interesting, but they are heavy! Was more thinking the backpack variety vs car variety, and looks like the folding kayaks are there ease of storage rather thank transportability.

    Have had good fun river and sea kayaking before so maybe one for the future.

  • Was more thinking the backpack variety vs car variety, and looks like the folding kayaks are there ease of storage rather thank transportability.

    They were originally developed to travel by train in pre-war Germany, and are transportable by plane, helicopter, submarine etc.

    I used to know a sea kayaker in Ireland who arrived at meets with a Feathercraft K-light kayak in his backpack having taken public transport, which weighed 15kg. Their replacement is the Kurrent which weighs 14kg and might be manageable.

    I have taken my Klepper Aerius 1 kayak on a train and portaged it from the port station to the jetty on its compact trolley. I would not try to backpack with it, though.

  • Can anyone recommend a 'gas tank' type bag for my wife's ebike? So a top mounted top tube bag that sits by the seat-post so as not to interfere with her electrical button?

    Doesn't need to be trendy, usability a priority

  • Like this?

    https://alpkit.com/products/fuel-pod-rea­r-top-tube-bag

    Else I’ve found tt bags (designed for longer time trials) work well at either end of the top tube. Topeak do/did one that was ok. Don’t seem to now, but this should work? https://www.topeak.com/global/en/product­s/191-Top-Tube-Bags/1311-FASTFUEL-DRYBAG­-X

  • Thanks @C4r1s, the Alpkit is what I am after- she has been using my stem mounted bag but the zip is 'the wrong way'

    If there is nothing available she will have to put up with what we have- I am sure there used to be loads of these on e-bay but can't find them now............

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