I'd like to hear your frame recommendations: Lo Pro, smooth welds

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  • I have been shouting at my computer all afternoon.

    Have you heard me?

  • I am thinking about another new build for spring and I'd like to hear your frame recommendations:

    • slight Lo Pro / Pursuit geometry (negatively sloping toptube, but 700c/700c)
    • available in 60/61-ish size
    • aluminum with smoothed welds (like on cannondales and dodicis)
    • nothing too exotic or custom-made in order to be able find a used/cheap one

    I like the Dodici Gara but it hasn't the geometry I am talking about, the Dodici Special does have it all, but the curvature of the seattube just doesn't match the curvature of the rear wheel, it's a shame, but for that reason it's out as well.
    Cinelli Mash would be nice, but the welds are not nice.

    Let me hear your rec's

    jetski

    whether it matches the curvature of the rear wheel is all about where your wheel is, AKA how short your chain is.

    the are radial lines were talking about.

    cases in point:
    white doesn't match, others do
    http://fixpatrix.wordpress.com/2010/07/1­8/dodici-special/

  • is this Valdemiro guy for real?

    custom alu for £200!?

  • whether it matches the curvature of the rear wheel is all about where your wheel is, AKA how short your chain is.

    the are radial lines were talking about.

    cases in point:
    white doesn't match, others do
    http://fixpatrix.wordpress.com/2010/07/1­8/dodici-special/

    all three cases are good examples of the mismatched curvature: the radius of the seattube arc is simply too small. period.

    you might be able to match that frame with the curvature of a 650c rear wheel, but 700c? nope.

  • Get a custom one from Valdemiro (Portugal).
    Frame will come at (approximately)= £200 (exc. forks), I believe in Scandium Alloy.
    This is Noca's one, and you can ask whatever geo you want. You won't find anything this smooth, anywhere.
    You can even ask him to replicate any other frame... which sounds a bit wrong tbh.

    That is sexy... Though i dont speak any Portuguese:-( How would we communicate?

    £200 for a custom Alu frame? Seriously?

    Damn!

  • it was 200 unfinished/painted though.

  • Yep, I know... hard to believe.
    I guess the hype (read hipster tax) doesn't mess around
    with prices in Portugal. It's legit.

  • it was 200 unfinished/painted though.

    Exactly, for £200 you'll get this:

    *And I remember the prices being in €.
    It was 200 for alu and 250 for steel. No forks.

  • It's a bargain.

  • its a mega bargain.

    I am so tempted, matching track & road custom ftw.

    wondering if he can pretty much replicate the 'dale track, i.e 1" threaded steel forks ftw.

  • I have already warned him about this... seriously, take in the UK people would buy his frames..
    I guess he's a bit lost in time and space tbf... He's basically the only person still doing it, like the old ways. It's worth a try.
    I can maybe help with translations or contacts.
    PM me. ;)

  • its a mega bargain.

    I am so tempted, matching track & road custom ftw.

    wondering if he can pretty much replicate the 'dale track, i.e 1" threaded steel forks ftw.

    Would make more sense to get 1st similar track forks of the 'dale off somewhere else, and then ask for a replica of the actual frame. Through what I understood on the phone with him, to order forks
    increases considerably the price.
    Meaning, most of his work now his custom Carbon. So i guess it's almost like sale price for "vintage" :D
    I remember him being really surprised I wanted to know about steel and alloy.
    But he can do it. He stocks Vitus, Reynolds and Columbus steel and I remember he likes to build with Easton alloy.

  • yeah, that was pretty much my plan, with the old forks.
    obvs needs a 1" headtube though.
    been having a look at the alloy tubesets.
    man, i really dont have this money.

  • Exactly, for £200 you'll get this:

    []http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/566/f­ramenocavaldemiro0.jpg[/]

    *And I remember the prices being in €.
    It was 200 for alu and 250 for steel. No forks.

    Does that include the tubeset? He definitely supplied the tubing, but I don't know if that was factored into the price.

  • present ;)
    feel free to ask me whatever you want.
    I think i will go to Valdemiro this week and i can ask him several things

    Hey Nuno, it wasn't 200€. A little more. Near 250€ (without paintjob)

  • all three cases are good examples of the mismatched curvature: the radius of the seattube arc is simply too small. period.

    you might be able to match that frame with the curvature of a 650c rear wheel, but 700c? nope.

    yea i guess youre right. i wasn't really looking closely and just felt like posting something.

  • present ;)
    feel free to ask me whatever you want.
    I think i will go to Valdemiro this week and i can ask him several things

    Hey Nuno, it wasn't 200€. A little more. Near 250€ (without paintjob)

    ups! sorry! you were talking in £ :)
    I did the paintjob (not in Valdemiro)

  • Would make more sense to get 1st similar track forks of the 'dale off somewhere else, and then ask for a replica of the actual frame. Through what I understood on the phone with him, to order forks
    increases considerably the price.
    Meaning, most of his work now his custom Carbon. So i guess it's almost like sale price for "vintage" :D
    I remember him being really surprised I wanted to know about steel and alloy.
    But he can do it. He stocks Vitus, Reynolds and Columbus steel and I remember he likes to build with Easton alloy.

    mine is in Easton Scandium Alloy

  • It's been temping me ever since I saw those photos too..
    Argh.

  • present ;)
    feel free to ask me whatever you want.
    I think i will go to Valdemiro this week and i can ask him several things

    Hey Nuno, it wasn't 200€. A little more. Near 250€ (without paintjob)

    Can you ask him how he feel about doing exact copies of bikes please? I'd love a cannondale but there's no way i'll ever find one in my size.

  • It's been temping me ever since I saw those photos too..
    Argh.

    nuknow said that thing about the cannondale track frame. He's right about it.
    I love the cannondale frame. When i decided to make my own frame i thought about some details of that frame (the weeldings). I tried to show it when i introduced my bike here.
    I never told Valdemiro about the cannondale track frame. I gave him the geometry i want and than i choose the tubings for it.

    I only wish you guys can ride my bike and feel it. You sure understand more than I about track bikes. I think it came out great. I was a BTT freak and I only started to ride road bike a year ago. Than i made my first singlespeed (soon i will show it here) and than this fixed gear bike.

  • Get a MurtHouse

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