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• #702
No one else has ever bought anything off it and the last time it was two bottles of whisky that just turned up with no info. It may be someone just found my list and then used the link to buy it or possibly I've added it to a cart on another device but not checked out so it thinks someone else bought one? I've never had it warn me before.
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• #703
I'd like to stick a front camera on, how are people attaching them? Just on the bars?
Helmet cam seems like a good option but I'd feel like, well, a bit of a helmet.
Also @pizzarat my Aldi camera came with a rubber bit on the back - yours must have fallen off or the shop shafted you
Edit: sorry for pitch black photo, it's there I assure you!
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• #704
Well it's mine now :)
I was going to use one of the spare ones my legit Fly6 came with or a piece of tube superglued to the back.
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• #705
Yeah, that'd do it. Tempted to shove a tube round the seatpost personally, it would solve the issue with the crappy strap as well, but not many people are as tolerant of ugliness on their bikes as me...
Have you got one of the Apeman things? Any good?
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• #706
Just ordered. Dunno yet.
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• #707
Oh yeah, I read the previous page but didn't really take it in apparently. Think I'll take a chance on it as well
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• #708
my preferred set up is one of these
however I wanted to declutter the bars on my commuter recently and have since been using a butchered cat eye fork mount - it’s worked a treat and survived plenty of bumps and tow path cobbles.
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• #709
I want to sell a Fly12, PM me
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• #710
£2.50
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• #711
a flat white
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• #712
Fly12white
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• #714
My Fly 12 is dead this morning. Won’t switch on/charge/WiFi nothing.
Was fine on the way home last night with more than 50% battery.
Any suggestions?
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• #715
I'd like to stick a front camera on, how are people attaching them? Just on the bars?
Helmet cam seems like a good option but I'd feel like, well, a bit of a helmet.
I use an in-front garmin / camera combo mount.
Wearing a camera attached to a helmet is, anecdotally*, not a great idea.
* tales from A&E of cameras embedded in brains
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• #716
I'm pretty sure that Fly12s have a battery problem - I'm on my third replacement.
The first was replaced with no quibbles, the second that made a stink about the USB port being fucked, but I contended that a standard micro USB port should not be fucked after only a few hundred uses, and in any case, the battery was fucked.
They replaced it in the end.
But yeah - go back to them (or the retailer) and get a replacement.
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• #717
If you hit something that hard, maybe a camera entering your brain is a good thing?
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• #718
But I think the point is it guarantees helmet failure because you've got the impact driving through a tiny little GoPro mount instead of being spread across a flat surface (the GoPro). Didn't everyone eventually conclude that this is what happened to Michael Schumacher?
I suppose with a rear and a front camera you cover about 320° already so the advantages of having the camera look where your head is is not as great.
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• #719
I have no idea. My point was basically if you hit hard enough to plow a camera mount into your brain you've probably hit hard enough to be dead anyway. I would never buy a helmet with built in cameras and I'm very unlikely to add a camera to a helmet (but wouldn't rule it out entirely if they were light/small enough).
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• #720
I think there's a range of speeds where it could be the difference, say 30mph + wall + no GoPro = concussion and sore neck, 30mph + wall + GoPro = brain impalement
I'll just stick on the front
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• #721
http://road.cc/content/news/133135-did-michael-schumacher%E2%80%99s-helmet-cam-cause-brain-injury
Shortly after Schumacher’s crash, VeloNews received a letter from a reader (link is external) questioning the safety of helmet-mounted cameras. Phil said he’d asked GoPro, and been told: “Our mounts are not designed to withstand significant impact, in the event that you do significantly impact your helmet the mounting parts and adhesive would likely not stay or adversely affect the performance of the helmet.”
VeloNews tech editor Lennard Zinn asked helmet makers their opinion on the mounting of cameras.
Giro’s Eric Richter said: “We studied this issue thoroughly, including significant testing at our in-house DOME test lab with both Go-Pro and Contour units. Our mounts cause no significant additional loads for the neck nor brain rotation due to well designed breakaway features.”
Michael Grim of Specialized said: “We believe that a good GoPro mount should “break away” in an impact. We think this is the main thing. There is still risk that the camera could still cause injury, but not worse than rocks, eyewear, etc. There is always risk of injury in an accident, regardless. So, it’s always best to keep the rubber side down.
“From our experience, so far, most of the adhesive mounts do break away fine. It seems a bigger problem that cameras get knocked off and lost. So, tethering the camera may also be wise, while still providing the breakaway feature. We think it’s a bad idea to have a camera “hard mounted or bolted” to the helmet, as this may increase risk by adding leverage to rotation in an impact.”
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• #723
Yeah, probably. It was an off-handed comment - I look like enough of a tool already without strapping cameras to my head.
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• #724
You might have better luck with buses, taxis, etc. giving you space on the road if you look like this though:

I do think that's a legitimate thing, in GoPro videos on YouTube you see people walking out of their cars ready for a fight and when they see the camera they sheepishly back off and say "oh that was a slightly dangerous manoeuvre there friend, please be careful next time"
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• #725
Or you get the Jason Wells / Ronnie Pickering reactions too?
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