Bobridge - 4km - 4m10.534s - :O

You can tell your Team GB lot to give up now. Mabye they'd like to chip in for my dinner.

Good idea, someone will have to pay for your dinner, seeing as you will have spent all your own money on *mine.
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Australia's run up to Beijing was shit, their run up to 2012 is looking pretty nice.. you must be marking your undies about this.. it's ok, you have a year to save..

Mating rituals come in many forms.

They'll all try to fuck off to the Santos team and Vaughters will "find" some more emails.

See you back on the track in 2013 Skippy!

Australia's run up to Beijing was shit, their run up to 2012 is looking pretty nice.. you must be marking your undies about this.. it's ok, you have a year to save..

Save for what? an air fare to Australia?

I might go actually, they're going to need some British coaches. It'll be awesome I will be able to see England win the Ashes again live!

No.

My point was not that the TP isn't olympic but that the training for the IP probably isn't *that *different to the TP training they'll be doing - if they're so focused only on olympic events.

To me it sounds like a shit excuse for having fallen back behind the aussies since Beijing (in pursuiting - Australia won't have a male sprinter to touch the top 3 or 4 Brits if it came to it).

To me it sounds like a shit excuse for having fallen back behind the aussies since Beijing (in pursuiting)

How are you defining this? how many times have we entered a full-strength squad in a major event alongside Australia since the last Olympics?

Can you point me to the results that show Aus TP going under 3:53.314?

How are you defining this? how many times have we entered a full-strength squad in a major event alongside Australia since the last Olympics?

Can you point me to the results that show Aus TP going under 3:53.314?

Don't get touchy - it's OK to be second best.

But seriously? It is all just talk and "banter" and at the moment, in pursuiting i think it is fair to say that Australia has the better of the banter. I think it is good for the sport and hopefully the Brits seeing this will raise their game - like they did after Athens. It's a real shame the IP is gone because that would have been even better.

And the best "definition" i can come up with? Perhaps we could add together the times of the 4 best IPs from each country in the last 12 months? I haven't done it, but let me know what the results are if you can find the times (disclaimer acknowledging that TP isn't simply the four fastest riders)

I wonder how well Phinney could do after this result?

Ok...quickly adding together the top 4 times in the Brit Champs in September we have 18 minutes and 5 seconds. Doing the same for a fast track in a hot humid Sydney would bring in 17 minutes and 2 seconds.

I know it's not scientific - but like I said, i think the Aussies can claim the better of the banter right now and that very banter should do well to fill the time between now and July 2012.

Don't get touchy - it's OK to be second best.

But seriously? It is all just talk and "banter" and at the moment, in pursuiting i think it is fair to say that Australia has the better of the banter. I think it is good for the sport and hopefully the Brits seeing this will raise their game - like they did after Athens. It's a real shame the IP is gone because that would have been even better.

And the best "definition" i can come up with? Perhaps we could add together the times of the 4 best IPs from each country in the last 12 months? I haven't done it, but let me know what the results are if you can find the times (disclaimer acknowledging that TP isn't simply the four fastest riders)

I'm not getting touchy, simple being rational. Adding times from last year won't tell you the whole story, it depends on the strength of the team being fielded.

here's last years worlds where the two teams went head to head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_UCI_Track_Cycling_World_Championships

Aus beat GB by about 00:00:150. Both times however, were more than 2 seconds under the WR set by GB in 2008

Hardly something to lose sleep over.

And the best "definition" i can come up with? Perhaps we could add together the times of the 4 best IPs from each country in the last 12 months? I haven't done it

don't bother, it will not prove anything apart from the 4 best times of nationals riders.
that has no bearing on an olympic team or how they will perform.

any team that's peaking now has fucked up their training plan.

Ok...quickly adding together the top 4 times in the Brit Champs in September we have 18 minutes and 5 seconds. Doing the same for a fast track in a hot humid Sydney would bring in 17 minutes and 2 seconds.

Eh? how is adding together times from the open Nationals giving any kind of idea?
SFAIK none of the male riders that competed in the TP at the nationals are in the GB TP team.

well, it's giving *some *kind of idea. Did you not read any of my disclaimers?

Anyway, what about this - The Australian Commonwealth games team rode faster than the Brit team at the Euros.

Surely you can simply admit that Australia looks to better in good shape now and that they have the better of the banter right now (for what its worth-fuck all, but this being an internet forum then it does have *some *currency).

The only thing we can say with any certainty at this point is that this thread will get bumped one way or another in 18 months time!

The forum wont make it 18 months

can you explain to me what 'the better of the banter' is and will this be an Olympic discipline?

can you explain to me what 'the better of the banter' is and will this be an Olympic discipline?

It's a weight division in the boxing i believe.

australia had the 'better of the banter' before the ashes.
didn't help them take 20 wickets or bat out a day though.

I don't think they did, but that's where we are at right now...before. So suck it up now and save it for after....it'll taste better (or you can replace the e with an i)

Anyway, what about this - The Australian Commonwealth games team rode faster than the Brit team at the Euros.

Both teams won gold at the respective events. Different tracks, different date and different Hemisphere.

Can we please stop this now.

'suck it up now and save it for later'
later? like the olympics which is what most national squads are doing now. i.e having a plan to qualify and then perform in london 2012.

nobody is denying that beating an old record by a small magin in an event nobody rides much is a nice thing and a boost of ones confidence but much like the ashes compared to 50 over games i doubt he would think twice about swapping that record for an olympic medal.

Save for what? an air fare to Australia?
I might go actually, they're going to need some British coaches. It'll be awesome I will be able to see England win the Ashes again live!

You can have the Ashes.

It's the £££ and an Aussie coach that got you some success in the past, I'm sure they won't mind you popping in for a chat, maybe let you have some old training tips..

australia had the 'better of the banter' before the ashes.
didn't help them take 20 wickets or bat out a day though.

Cricket thread >>>>>

nobody is denying that beating an old record by a small magin in an event nobody rides much is a nice thing and a boost of ones confidence but much like the ashes compared to 50 over games i doubt he would think twice about swapping that record for an olympic medal.

It was an 'unbeatable' record.
The margin was fucking huge.
The event is massive worldwide, whether or not it is an independent Olympic event.
Cricket thread>>>>>>>