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  • Thanks Im pretty good at keeping stuff like that but 2007 letters go astray,
    hold on let me just have a word with mysecretary

    " Candice!! come ere"

  • *m.f - write to a woman at SDG. I'll PM you her details.

  • David, do you know if STA Bikes are planning to become an ITO?

  • No additional ITOs will be accredited for a while (nor do I think London has the capacity to support any more ITOs -London now has 4 at the moment) and maintain quality.

    The Govornment are yet to announce the next window for applications to become an ITO. I suspect it won't be for at least 18 Mlonths

  • Cheers.

  • *m.f - write to a woman at SDG. I'll PM you her details.

    yes, done, issue resolved

  • I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if a wheelchair user would be able to undertake cycle instructor training? I've had a query in from someone working on behalf of the DfT. I've advised her to contact CTUK, but said I'd look into it further too.

  • The quick answer I guess would be no. If you cannot ride a bike yourself you cannot demonstrate that to trainees nor accompany them on rides. Nor would you be able to teach a complete beginner. However it might be a different situation if it was about teaching other people with disabilities how to use specially adapted bikes.
    There must be other people on here who know a lot more about that than I do though so hopefully someone else will be able to give you a fuller answer.

  • The quick answer I guess would be no. If you cannot ride a bike yourself you cannot demonstrate that to trainees nor accompany them on rides. Nor would you be able to teach a complete beginner. However it might be a different situation if it was about teaching other people with disabilities how to use specially adapted bikes.
    There must be other people on here who know a lot more about that than I do though so hopefully someone else will be able to give you a fuller answer.

    Is there something around 'reasonable adjustment' under the EA2010 (previously DDA)? What if they were to have a non-wheelchair user support the person learning physically, but the direction came from them? I dunno, I'm clutching at straws really...

  • There will be specially adapted bikes (Like handcranked) that a wheelchair user could use. If that person was able to ride on road using such an adapted bike they may well be able to achieve instructor outcomes though it may be more appropriate for them to teach other people with disabilities especially teaching them how control such a bike. It is impossible to generalise and CTUK would need more information about this person before deciding if instructor training would be possible.
    I was contacted by SDG regarding this last week and assume that this is the same person you asking about here Littleheather.

  • I was contacted by SDG regarding this last week and assume that this is the same person you asking about here Littleheather.

    It sounds as though it's the same person, skydancer. I completely agree. At our sessions there are a myriad of cycles we use, including handcycles. It's also possible for some wheelchair users to use cycles (including trikes or side-by-side tandems) with some adaptations (such as straps for their feet). So I have to agree with you that their ability to become an instructor would have to be on a case by case basis.

  • The way to approach this is to first think about what adjustments they needed. If there were any things that they couldn't demonstrate themselves, it may even be an appropriate adjustment for them to have an assistant. The key thing is firstly to have a conversation with them (involve them first) what they actually want. It could be someone who just hadn't thought it through and might not want to work in this way once they became aware of the exigencies of the job.

    If, however, they have already thought about which adjustments they would require, and this is what they want to do, then a decision needs to be reached whether an adjustment they require is reasonable. If you fail to provide reasonable adjustments, you may be discriminating against the person. Some info on this in here, from section 9.32 onwards:

    http://www.ncb.org.uk/cdc/CDC_LH_Chap_9c­.pdf

    It would probably be a good idea for cycle training organisations in general to develop guidance for applying the legislation, especially given the huge importance that all ability cycling has. Not every adjustment conceivable would be reasonable. Hope this helps!

  • The way to approach this is to first think about what adjustments they needed....
    http://www.ncb.org.uk/cdc/CDC_LH_Chap_9c­.pdf
    ...Hope this helps!

    Great post there Oliver! Funny that you chose this link - I used to work for NCB!!!

  • It would probably be a good idea for cycle training organisations in general to develop guidance for applying the legislation, especially given the huge importance that all ability cycling has. Not every adjustment conceivable would be reasonable. Hope this helps!

    True Oliver.
    Cycle Trainers (and others) have just contributed to the development of this newly published guide:
    **Delivering Inclusive Cycle Training - A Good Practice Guide for Disability Cycle Training

    Available here http://www.dft.gov.uk/ctsb/delivery
    **

  • Yes, I have yet to read it, although I'm sure it's excellent. Does it cover instructor training, too, then?

  • Great post there Oliver! Funny that you chose this link - I used to work for NCB!!!

    Ha. I knew someone else who worked for them, too, but I can't for the life of me remember who it was now. :)

  • That document covers many elements that may help to include as many people as possible in the joys of an HPV. Reading it would inform instructor's general working practice. There are many cycle trainers with a lot of experience in SEN and working with adapted bikes

  • Yes, I meant making reasonable adjustments for instructors in particular. Guidance there would be very useful. Is that included? I'm not clear from your post.

  • Oliver - I'm not sure that it does cover Instructor Training. Firstly, I don't recall seeing anything specifically about it in the document (although it was December when we contributed to its content, so could be wrong), but secondly, it's the person that wrote it that contacted me with the query! Maybe it's the DfT's intentions to write another guide for Instructors Training? I dunno...

  • Please note that Cycling Solutions is no longer an Instructor Training Organisation.
    (First post adjusted accordingly)

  • is this list of ITOS going to remain the same, ? will there likely be any call for finding new ITOS after the quality assurance starts next year?
    theres a Council that say they would like to become one, yet dont see any chance of doing so even with the current focus on all things training....

  • Yes there is just a window opened for new ITOs.

  • great, fast response,
    any links please?

  • It will soon be posted here:
    http://www.dft.gov.uk/bikeability/
    Email: contactus@bikeability.org.uk to ask for an expression of interest form by 31st Dec

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