Getting out of phone contract

Cool, so if they get a free mobile phone as a perk, we're all happy since they signed up for it.

Yup.

"I'm just curious about why there is a current vogue for special support for soldiers who are doing the job they signed up for."

Perhaps because we disagree with what our governments are choosing to do with our soldiers?

Exactly. That is the crucial difference between saying you 'support' the troops and coming out with the sort of twaddle that dammit spouted.

And?

And.. they get rewarded for it.

So we learn, that DJ is a self proclaimed ride-organising Hero of the Board.

I think most of us already knew that...

Exactly. That is the crucial difference between saying you 'support' the troops and coming out with the sort of twaddle that dammit spouted.

Supporting the troops doesn't mean supporting the war. I thought that was kinda obvious.

Bigtwin, you are now resorting to swearing and personal abuse.

Genius hypocrite!

I am a terrible hypocrite and proud of it, but you are trying to take a moral high ground and failing.

And.. they get rewarded for it.

Oh, and here's me thinking that this whole argument kicked off because they don't get rewarded properly because they have to pay for their own mobile phones...

Can you all make your minds up?

Though 'support' is a newspeak word anyway; there are nuances in how one can feel about the armed forces, space between support and denigration.

Supporting the troops doesn't mean supporting the war. I thought that was kinda obvious.

It is. To anyone who cares to open their eyes to the obvious.

Oh, and here's me thinking that this whole argument kicked off because they don't get rewarded properly because they have to pay for their own mobile phones...

Can you all make your minds up?

They get perks for doing their job.
If one of those perks is not paying mobile bills while following their governments orders I'm happy for that.
You might not be but personally I'd rather solder's mobile bills get paid than bankers gett tax breaks.

I am a terrible hypocrite and proud of it

Au contraire; you in fact set whole new standards.

Supporting the troops doesn't mean supporting the war. I thought that was kinda obvious.

I'm really unsure about this, I don't think I can safely say that one can "support the troops" without supporting their involvement in the war in a more than superficial manner.

They get perks for doing their job.
If one of those perks is not paying mobile bills while following their governments orders I'm happy for that.
You might not be but personally I'd rather solder's mobile bills get paid than bankers gett tax breaks.

If that's the choice, I'm with you...

Though they might want to investigate the international roaming options.

Though 'support' is a newspeak word anyway; there are nuances in how one can feel about the armed forces, space between support and denigration.

Yes, which is why I am all for organisations that do things like help injured troops and not at all happy about where your government and my own is sending troops.

You might not be but personally I'd rather solder's mobile bills get paid than bankers gett tax breaks.

well, who wouldn't? But what if the choice is between soldiers getting their mobile bills paid and relatives of patients in hospital not having to pay for parking?

Au contraire; you in fact set whole new standards.

Your logic is now so flawed, you criticise me for swearing and personal abuse and question my ability to make any logical argument.

You then proceed to swear and personally abuse.

Wow.

Almost as gifted as Dammit, do you two work for the Daily Mail?

Yes, which is why I am all for organisations that do things like help injured troops and not at all happy about where your government and my own is sending troops.

Me too; last but one post was actually agreeing with you. You dumb war mongering Aussie colonialist phone abuser.

I'm really unsure about this, I don't think I can safely say that one can "support the troops" without supporting their involvement in the war in a more than superficial manner.

UK soldier returns from illegal war with no legs after having done his duty, bearing in mind he goes to jail if he doesn't go to this war. Do we help him walk again or not?

If that's the choice, I'm with you...
Though they might want to investigate the international roaming options.

It's cheaper than the satellite phone links and if they buy in bulk I'm sure the carrier would offer some good rates.

UK soldier returns from illegal war with no legs after having done his duty, bearing in mind he goes to jail if he doesn't go to this war. Do we help him walk again or not?

Well, if by 'we' you mean LFGSS then I suppose we could ask Teenslain to give him some tips.

Yes, which is why I am all for organisations that do things like help injured troops and not at all happy about where your government and my own is sending troops.

Don't these organisations help to bolster the appearance of public support for the war?
Don't they also help subsidise the government's defence budget, distorting the true cost of overseas operations?

I'm not entirely sure myself (just playing Devils Advocate) but this is an example of why I don't think "support" for the troops and support for the war can ever be totally seperate.

well, who wouldn't? But what if the choice is between soldiers getting their mobile bills paid and relatives of patients in hospital not having to pay for parking?

I'm with the soldiers still. Hospitals are usually located near public transport.

I'm really unsure about this, I don't think I can safely say that one can "support the troops" without supporting their involvement in the war in a more than superficial manner.

Try this. They were sent to way by a bare-faced lying PM (who then ficked off to become a highly "ironic" peace envoy making silly money on the international lecture circuit) to fight a war then have no faith in, that has no realistically achievable military objective, doing tour after tour with no proper rest and recovery on account of years of successive government cut-backs, leaving their families back home to worry shitless about them. Whilst knowing that there is laughably little aftercare and support for PTSD etc, and an vastly disproportionally high ratio of ex-servicemen amongst the prison and homeless population. I could go on...

Me too; last but one post was actually agreeing with you. You dumb war mongering Aussie colonialist phone abuser.

I declare war on you lot!

Your logic is now so flawed, you criticise me for swearing and personal abuse and question my ability to make any logical argument.

You then proceed to swear and personally abuse.

Wow.

Almost as gifted as Dammit, do you two work for the Daily Mail?

Keep going, you're doing so well.