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  • I would like to know about bad traders on LFGSS.

    This shouldn't apply to those who don't respond to you instantly... you may just be being impatient and sellers have lives too.

    And if something goes wrong, you should give them the chance to correct it in any reasonable way.

    Assumptions for buyers: Unless you used PayPal to specify you were purchasing goods... you should accept the risk.

    Assumptions for sellers: Unless you ship recorded delivery... you might lose your item and money. Don't ever expect someone to 'gift' payment.

    LFGSS always recommends in-person exchanges over postal for items sold through classifieds.

    Anyhow... if anyone has consistently shown bad service, or acted fraudulently, then I would like to:
    1) Name and shame to encourage them to resolve it.
    2) Failing a resolution, ban them.

    I'm also interested in purging the forum of sellers who provide no server or contribution to the forum in any form yet continue to spam the forum with their goods.

    Anyhow... feel free to report such stuff to me, or to post it in this thread. Basically... I want you all to police this stuff, and for me to be the enforcer where applicable... and eventually once we figure out what to do with bad traders for me to make other people enforcers.

  • Query: organicorigin https://www.lfgss.com/member4844.html

    Has anyone had bad experience with this seller? i.e. Is there a good reason for me to ban him permanently?

    I've been advised that he had failed to dispatch some items, but would like some first hand information before I ban him.

  • I bought a couple of things from him last year, including a frame and it was all very straight forward and received swiftly.

  • David, reported winmister999 to you a few weeks back.
    Looks like a bad egg http://www.lfgss.com/thread46296.html

  • Personally, I'm not prepared to buy from / sell to anyone by means other than face-to-face, cash in hand (with the exception of people I personally know, and Hilary Stone). It's a shame, but I can do without the hassle of queueing at the post office, let alone deal with some toe rag not sending goods / pulling a dodgy PayPal claim on me.

  • Yeah, keep it in 'the family' ... +1.

  • Query: organicorigin http://www.lfgss.com/member4844.html

    Has anyone had bad experience with this seller? i.e. Is there a good reason for me to ban him permanently?

    I've been advised that he had failed to dispatch some items, but would like some first hand information before I ban him.

    I've bought a couple of complete bikes, and lots of bits from him. Have had stuff posted, and met up with him and friends who he's left stuff with in London. Never had a problem, always been very helpful and even hunted down specific parts i was after and at good prices. I wouldn't even consider banning him... some people are busy though and sometimes patience is needed, just my 2 cents.

  • I buy a few things from here and i'd just like to say i appreciate people agreeing to post stuff to tokyo- most are
    Regular dealers who are taking a risk as much as the buyers.
    I know this is not ebay but we have ratings on threads , is there any programming so people could get a icon for honest selling buying?
    Just an idea as i don't want scare-mongering to put of people trusting other members on the forum.

  • Also bought from him, no problems and seemingly good prices.... like someone said people can be busy/on holiday, they're not doing it as their main income... PM generally resolves issues... Don't ban

    Query: organicorigin http://www.lfgss.com/member4844.html

    Has anyone had bad experience with this seller? i.e. Is there a good reason for me to ban him permanently?

    I've been advised that he had failed to dispatch some items, but would like some first hand information before I ban him.

  • Bought a frame off Rob and met in person, nice guy and transaction all very smooth, no reason to ban in my eyes

  • If people who have had a good experience wih OrganicOrigin could drop him a line and ask him to send me my money back, that would be fantastic.

  • Hi Gav- I'll pm his e-mail address to you tomorrow- you can get him on Google too as his business is the same name- Organicorigin, and he quotes his mobile number there too.

    He admitted to me that he doesn't check LFGSS pm's any longer.

    I didn't get back the Hope bb I lent him.

  • I bought a couple of things from him last year, including a frame and it was all very straight forward and received swiftly.

    Likewise, bought a frame off organicOrigin, no problems whatsoever

  • I've bought things from Rob before, and he was fine, but that was a while ago, and he seems to have gone AWOL now..I'm pretty sure JD knows him personally. Perhaps people with problems could contact JD to see if he can help.

  • Do the fellas that make a chunk of money without donating to the forum should be named in this thread?

  • I don't think it should be made obligatory to donate to the forum, that would not be a donation.
    Although I think it is always the right thing to do if you sell regularly, others might not share that opinion.

  • It's not obligatory. However, there have been people in the past who have joined, got out of the nursery, and then exclusively posted to start threads in classifieds and sell. That's not participating in the community, that's using DK's hard work and time to make a profit. People like that are using the forum as an alternative to e-bay. They should, and for the most part do donate. Those who don't, and are spotted are told how things are run, and most donate after that.

  • It's all a question of how the community want things to work here.

    Would we rather it was a social network with like-minded people occasionally selling off their stuff to mates (or mates of mates) or would we like a wider section of the cycling world to occasionally drop buy and offer nice things to us without necessarily 'contributing' to the forum.

    Personally, I'd like people who only really sell things on lfgss to give back a little donation every now and again but on the flip-side hounding people for that could discourage sellers and reduce the amount of nice things becoming available on the website.*

    *Just a talking point, I'm not saying my POV is necessarily how we should all view the forum.

  • Also, on the note of OrganicOrigin, I've gotten a couple of items from him in the past with no problems.

  • with 11.500 member we are hardly anymore a small comunity of mates IMHO
    everybody who use the site more than twice a days should donate, independently if he sells or not IMHO
    in buying and selling there is always a risk, everybody should we aware of this, and when you have hundrends of transaction going on is question of time bad things happen, but they are not the end of the world

  • How many warnings should people get about listing their ebay items before banning?
    This user has started 3 threads, all 3 just to promote their ebay items..
    http://www.lfgss.com/member17255.html

  • I see a few members always posting the same items here and on retrobike, ctc forum, bikeradar, TTforum though you never mention it on their threads. Is it because they are regular sellers or are those forums ok to share posts with lfgss? They sell nice stuff and they sell it here on a regular basis. I don't really see a problem with them posting here and retro bike. I look at both forums being part of our community. Like putting up ads on posted boards at different locations in your neighborhood.

    How many warnings should people get about listing their ebay items before banning?
    This user has started 3 threads, all 3 just to promote their ebay items..
    http://www.lfgss.com/member17255.html

  • Things always used to sell for less on here than ebay...thats not always as true now.

  • I see a few members always posting the same items here and on retrobike, ctc forum, bikeradar, TTforum though you never mention it on their threads. Is it because they are regular sellers or are those forums ok to share posts with lfgss? They sell nice stuff and they sell it here on a regular basis. I don't really see a problem with them posting here and retro bike. I look at both forums being part of our community. Like putting up ads on posted boards at different locations in your neighborhood.

    the rules for classifieds say no advertising if you have an item on ebay.

    don't see a problem with cross advertising on other bikefroums

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