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  • No but THC is, as are other elements, my concern and admittedly unclear to me, how consistently/ reliably it can be isolated?

  • I don’t know much about CBD

    But 30 seconds on google would answer your question
    https://hempika.com/cbd-isolate-vs-full-­spectrum-cbd/

    TL;DR: Even the isolate will contain more than enough carried over mixed cannabinoids to detect in dopage

  • Thanks, although that link doesn’t really clarify things.

    Seems a strange thing for a pro athelete to be using given possibly consequences.

  • Guess it depends how much faith you put in their marketing spiel
    "Medterra CBD Isolate is made from certified industrial hemp and not the cannabis associated with marijuana. Industrial hemp-derived CBD is federally legal in the United States, and our CBD isolate contains zero THC.

    https://medterracbd.com/news/will-cbd-sh­ow-up-on-a-drug-test/

  • our CBD isolate contains zero THC.

    "zero" has a mathematical meaning and also a regulatory meaning in terms of permitted contaminants in food and drugs. I'd be quite surprised if they could meet the mathematical definition at a price tolerable to retail consumers, if at all.

    The link I provided says 99.9% CBD in the isolate product, which is pretty good for commercial grade chemicals and presumably meets the regulatory definition of pure. When you start adding more 9s on the end of that, the price goes up very fast.

    This is why "alcohol free" actually means <0.5%; if you tried to get lower, it would be too expensive.

  • All anyone cares about is if it will show up in a UKAD, WADA, whatever dope test. Personally, I wouldn't use any CBD product unless we'd got to the point where it was essentially guaranteed by the dope testers to not fail their test. I certainly wouldn't trust any manufacturer's claims that it wouldn't fail a test.

    It would be kinda funny though, "hippy" failing a test for performance enhancing drugs and it turns out to be THC.

    "I didn't perform as well as I'd like today because I forgot where the race started, then I started late coz it was like really hard to get motivated for it and then I just had to stop half way because jam doughnuts were really calling out to me, man"

  • I mean doping is fucking dumb, but requesting to be tested while doping? That's a new one!

    Explains why they have Trump though I guess.

  • Congrats on waking from your coma the date is 04/09/20

  • Yes, but what about the chicken?!?

  • What's going on with Nairo? Seized vitamins?

  • Freeman trial back on today. First laptop was stolen, second one he hacked up with a screwdriver. Both times backups accidentally not made.

    At the same time Wiggins unavailable for Eurosport’s Giro coverage today for some reason.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/o­ct/06/former-team-sky-doctor-destroyed-l­aptop-before-handing-it-to-experts?CMP=S­hare_iOSApp_Other

  • backups accidentally not made.

    I mean, this is literally everyone in the world so that's hardly newsworthy.

    At the same time Wiggins unavailable for Eurosport’s Giro coverage

    Stonking hangover. Weren't you there?! Party hardy everybody

  • The Guardian, like most of the media, is very mean with its coverage of cycling excepting when there's an unsavoury drugs story. By contrast football not only fills up most of the sports pages, but gets plugged everywhere it's possible to do so.

    Drugs in football ? It's not really a thing, excepting the odd recreational use story.

    Now have a look at this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as­sociation_footballers_who_died_while_pla­ying

    Does anything strike anyone here about the prevalence of heart attacks after 1990?

    This was a cause of death in earlier years, but nothing like so common. Odd, isn't it, that the change seems to co-incide with the start of a practice that we cyclists are all too familiar with.

    We need to know what's going on here.

  • In honesty we don’t need to know what’s going on here. It’s not news that football players, tennis players, rugby players etc etc etc are also on the sauce. Check most anti-doping agencies banned lists and cyclists are not the most prevalent.

  • We need to know what's going on here.

    Records are getting much better, for a start. Especially since the internet age. Before then, there would be little chance of finding out about deaths in football matches in Indonesia, Nigeria or the Emirates. I don't know if players/teams in some of those leagues could afford doping regimes.

  • In honesty we don’t need to know what’s going on here.

    I didn't mean that I want to read about doping in other sports. What I want to know is why is cycling picked on by the media. It's bad enough that our sport is barely reported - if they're not interested in what we do, they should leave us alone, not just go on and on about the dark side of the sport.

  • why is cycling picked on

    Because, in contrast with other sports, it's easy to show that the biggest event in the cycling calendar was repeatedly "won" by the use of a large scale and highly effective doping conspiracy. It's easy to speculate on the effect of kickball players' doping on the outcome of matches, but it's much harder to draw a simple linear narrative.

  • Yep that. Looking at the list of 70-odd currently sanctioned British athletes, only one is a cyclist and he's a 63 year old in the last year of a 4 year ban for doping in local TTs (finished 95th in the TT he was popped at). Other sports it's a scattering of semi-pro, pro etc athletes. In honesty it's mostly rugby that seems to have a problem.

    Interestingly there are two people serving bans from rugby whose names are redacted from the UKAD list.

  • there are two people serving bans from rugby whose names are redacted from the UKAD list.

    Presumably they're the guys that would've got lighter sentences for providing information on other dopers or doping suppliers, etc.

  • CTT doping control gives me the fear that I’ll fail for something unknowingly, whilst being amongst the tail.

  • in late 2017, there were three rugby league players on coke bans who had won the man of steel/dally m award (best player in UK/oz) in the previous 5 years.

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