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  • I think he won it because he had the lowest cumulative time over the 21 stages.

    And he was high as a mother-fucker.

  • I think he won it because he had strong legs, not strong arms, and because of that he is a liar.

  • I think he won it because he had strong legs, not strong arms, and because of that he is a liar.

    repped.

  • insert facepalm picture

  • I believe legalised doping will at least give people better information on the potential harms. It seems to be a ridiculous taboo. Other acceptable practices in athletes training can also have long term consequences.

    I'd be interested to see how much faster people could go. Possibly there could be a clean and unclean system, so a lot less pressure for people to fake it.

  • I heard some boff on radio 4 the other week say that with or without drugs the human body can and will only go so fast.. Example of this is that the absolute record for 100m sprint will never be any quicker than 8.4 seconds..

  • Ffs.

  • i remember reading how much time difference moderns shoes make in the 100m

    As such there are always little things that can be tweaked, but as the shoes become stiffer/rebound faster the athletes skeleton takes more shock etc so they will suffer more in later life. What is the difference between this and long term effects of doping?

  • I heard some boff on radio 4 the other week say that with or without drugs the human body can and will only go so fast.. Example of this is that the absolute record for 100m sprint will never be any quicker than 8.4 seconds..

    I would think that the way the human body only uses a small percentage of theoretical muscle power. Would mean a big margin for improvement/fecking-yourself-up.

    I'm no doctor though.

  • I would think that the way the human body only uses a small percentage of theoretical muscle power. Would mean a big margin for improvement/fecking-yourself-up.

    I'm no doctor though.

    This gezzer was

  • But what the boffin epically failed to mention is that the particular human bodies in question would not be as quick without the drugs.
    James: strawman.

  • Ahhhh..That's him..

  • What about genetic mutations? For instance a human born with a condition that inhibited lactic acid or something or less sensibly 4 working legs?

    Surely anything is possible?

  • I once saw on the Discovery channel, that this 12 year old had lifted a car off his uncle. A feet of strength made possible by extreme amounts of adrenilin.

    You could harness that.

    Maybe with gamma rays.

  • Have you been watching the Human Centipede again?

  • I once saw on the Discovery channel, that this 12 year old had lifted a car off his uncle. A feet of strength made possible by extreme amounts of adrenilin.

    You could harness that.

    Maybe with gamma rays.

    it'll never work....

  • Have you been watching the Human Centipede again?

    Now we're talking.

    Splice a climber and a sprinter together.

    Not sure how many organs they would need to share for the UCI to except them as one person though.

  • it'll never work....

    Just wait.

    As I type I have my feet in the office micowave and am reading about Plymouth Argyles season for anger chemicals.

  • What about genetic mutations? For instance a human born with a condition that inhibited lactic acid or something or less sensibly 4 working legs?

    Surely anything is possible?

    Already in effect really-I can remember reading about athletes that had unusual genetic traits like exceptionally low heart rate, huge lung capacity, lactic acid absorbing rates... There's always an element of natural advantage, but it's pretty clear that doping totally distorts this and brings in an aspect of how well you are cheating to enhance this ability.

    I'd rather watch a more realistic tour with shorter stages, lower average speed or more rest days but know that the athletes are clean than watch 400km stages that are cycled at 55km/h and take in every peak in the country and have them pumping round on 50% blood to %50 Epo...

  • I'd like to get some EPO and then see if I could cycle up Swains without stopping

  • I heard some boff on radio 4 the other week say that with or without drugs the human body can and will only go so fast.. Example of this is that the absolute record for 100m sprint will never be any quicker than 8.4 seconds..

    this theory is often proposed by a certain Roger Bannister.

  • Id take EPO

  • And ExtenZ

  • Possibly there could be a clean and unclean system, so a lot less pressure for people to fake it.

    People would still try to cheat in the 'clean' system.

    What we have now, which is in effect an arms race between cheaters and regulators, is the worst possible system except for all the alternatives.

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