2010-03-24 - Rider Down/Fatality, A338

Which street? Do you mean the Snowsfield/Weston Street junction where it happened?

It's near where it happened. Essentially the sharp left from St Thomas Street into Bermondsey Street (also shares the Snowsfields junction) under the tunnel leading to Tooley street. Well the road surface there was absolutely atrocious, dangerous and scary. Low and behold someone dies and they have a sudden brain wave that maybe they should fix the road, when clearly it was the fault of all the HGVs rumbling by. Bollocks.

That is so awful. I'm glad that I've never had to witness anything like this. We can talk about these deaths here forever, but we will fail to realise the full horror unless we see the reality of it. The worst injury I've ever witnessed is someone breaking his leg in a basketball match, which I still remember and don't like thinking about. Is you friend getting counselling support?

I asked about this. He said the bus that he was on where everyone witnessed it was total carnage but he has discussed it a length with loads of people and is slowly getting over it.

Very tragic but sorry to say that this is likely to occur more often with the state of the roads, Live out in Essex near dengie hundred and contractors have been busy raising curbs on country lanes but ignoring holes in the road yards away from where they are working, I am always suspicious how contracts are earned.

It's near where it happened. Essentially the sharp left from St Thomas Street into Bermondsey Street (also shares the Snowsfields junction) under the tunnel leading to Tooley street. Well the road surface there was absolutely atrocious, dangerous and scary. Low and behold someone dies and they have a sudden brain wave that maybe they should fix the road, when clearly it was the fault of all the HGVs rumbling by. Bollocks.

To be honest, Festus, I doubt very much that this is related. As far as I know, that carriageway surfacing has been raised by campaigners for some time now as part of the Bermondsey Street improvements (which still didn't go far enough to make the street two-way), and there are regularly-scheduled works taking place.

Follow link and report them - who knows they may just fill it...
http://www.fillthathole.org.uk/
If the council did something, they'd be liable for trying and failing similar to the situation with the lack of grit on pavements when it was icy!
waste. RIP

If you voted me for King I'd bring in a rule that anyone needing to dig up part of a road takes all responsibility of that specific patch for a year from the point they finished it. If it opens up again the big retainer stays with the council. No one seems to take responsibility.

Then there's the nonsense situation that if the the pot hole has been sprayed with a rattle can, it means the council are aware and have earmarked the specific hole for repair and are no longer liable if you have an accident there!

In Birmingham, whichever contractor digs up/fucks up the road is liable for fixing repairs in it up to 12 months after its signed off by the council (it's maintainance period, like on new roads) rather than the council, though they usually just fill in the hole and then charge the contractor for their time.
Also, you can only claim money back from the council for repairs for damage caused by potholes if they already new about the hole...hence the reporting thing. If it's marked, thats just more proof of their negligence as they're obliged to fix it asap. If its not known, its assumed to be a new hole. The council can't be expected to know about all holes as soon as they happen.

Last night on my way home went shorter way, and got myself in a pothole hell, and as a result, fractured bone in my wrist... of work and bike for few weeks now. Try to avoid Wheelright st and Roman way, just of Caledonian road.

shit man, heal up.

Ouch, that area is bad for it at the moment. Mackenzie Road a bit further north is how I usually pass through the area. The surface there is poor, especially around the speed bumps. Heal up soon and I hope it's not a complicated wrist fracture!

Thanks, will take it easy for now, need to rest my arm and specially my wrist. Apparently it's just a very small fracture this time, so nothing too complicated.
Will try to take Mackenzie rd next time, because Roman way is in very bad state, and those speed bumps so steep as well. Funny thing is that Roman way shows up as cyclist friendly route! I don't think so!!!
Yesterday on my way to hospital I was so jealous seeing everyone on their bikes :)

Funny thing is that Roman way shows up as cyclist friendly route! I don't think so!!!

It's because of the alignment.

Glad the injury is simple!

It could well be that the main contributing cause may have been that the lorry may simply have been too close to the rider as he started his overtaking manoeuvre, but it's all speculation, as in all such cases before the full story is known.

Yes, b/c in Florida the law is that you must not start an overtaking maneuver with less than 200 feet between yourself and the oncoming vehicle. Obviously this won't happen in heavy traffic but I'm sure it's the rule during light traffic and highway driving.