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  • Is this the very same as featured by Henry Cole the other day? Looked a great idea and well laid out space.

  • If Henry Cole is the guy on ITV 4, then yes.

    It's pretty awesome tbh. I'm not into motorcycles, but I drop by a few times a week just to do bits to my bicycles.

    I've powder-coated some forks, polished a set of hubs, and I paid to have a welding lesson, which was actually a huge amount of fun and far more rewarding than I was expecting!

    I've known Bob (owner) since I was about 19/20, a very good friend of mine!

    Worth mentioning that if anyone were to take a trip to there, he's awesome and will greet anyone with a hot drink and a chat! The workshop is based in Hinkley.

  • Yes indeed, the marmite guy on ITV.

    Am planning to visit if I can make it during a visit elsewhere, as I’m otherwise so far away.

  • I paid to have a welding lesson, which was actually a huge amount of fun and far more rewarding than I was expecting!

    I was only chatting to the wife the other day about wanting to learn to weld. Took a look at the site earlier and was tempted by the MIG session. Interested in welding box steel for some home furniture.

    It's not that much of a trek to Hinkley from Cambridge so I might consider booking something in the new year.

  • Give it a go! :)

    Tempted to chat to Bob to see if he could get someone up there teaching frame building.

    Bob used to be head of the metal fab shop at a motorcycle manufacturer, he knows his stuff.

    He's literally got everything you'd need to make a frame there, other than a jig and the pipes!

  • Go big or go home right? Got myself a gerbing heated jacked liner, which was like a warm hug all the way to work this morning (although it wasn’t that cold tbh). Warm arms = warm hands seemed work out ok but I have those cheap muffs incoming anyway.

    Having a nightmare trying to get hold of an exhaust hanger/pillion peg blanking plate - two cancelled ebay purchases and apparently no stock in the UK anywhere 🤷♂️

  • We now own a pressure washer. I’m not sure I like the bike less-unclean. Looks weird.

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  • Careful with the amount of pressure and where you direct it with a pressure washer. You can have issues with water ingress past seals if you're not careful....

  • Yep this is what I’ve worried about. I had avoided direct pressure on the bike anywhere, constantly moving the jet, and doing my best not to aim at any of the bearings or seals. We’ll see how unsuccessful I was in a few weeks/months when shit starts to go wrong.

    For the most part the bike is clean, except around the bearings and seals, where I actively avoided spraying.

  • I jet washed my TZR at a garage in Vauxhall one winter. Wouldn't start afterwards so I pushed it all the way back to Fulham where it started outside my house because the coil had dried out by then.

  • The joy of lightweight two strokes! A GSXR may have been more of a challenge!!
    I miss the smell of Castrol R in the morning. And I reckon you miss your TZR too. 😁

  • Was just enjoying looking at this and it sold straight away! Bugger!

  • Drum front, and incorrect registration (185 registered as 125, no mention of V5), no keyed ignition, rust bucket, dodgy welding. Description states it’s a mess.

    On the one hand, yea it looks cool. But that looks awful for a bike you intend to actually use.

  • Thank you for being the voice of reason. Fortunately I’ve realised I should probably save up so I have £1200-1500 to spend so that I can buy something I can sell on for similar to what I paid once I’ve got my proper bike license.

  • Have you considered not buying a small bike?
    There’s no right way to do things, Pdlouche will attest that it was valuable experience riding around on the 125 for practice for a few months.
    The thing I thought about was the losing money on reselling the bike and also the cost of tax, MOT, insurance that you don’t get back and could instead be used to get on the big bikes quicker. I went for my CBT, hired a 125 for a week and rode it for a lot of hours during that week, then booked straight on my theory and a Direct Access Course. I had three days training including both parts of the practical test and a month later had a 600. The training and tests came to about £800 I seem to recall so anything saved can really help speed things up in that regard

  • Anyone got experience with Honda VFR engined bikes?

    Considering a Crosstourer, which runs a VFR1200.
    Seems like a decent upgrade from my XL700, powerwise.

  • Do a CBT // ride a small bike for a while (weeks/months/years) // do a big bike course/test // get a bigger bike
    Do a CBT // ride a small bike for a while // drive a car instead
    Do a CBT // do the theory test immediately // do a DAS course (if old enough) // buy a bigger bike

    And all variations in between.

    CBT/DAS, I thought I’d do it all in the space of a few weeks, and I was wrong.

    It took about a month waiting list to book my CBT in November, month wait to do theory test, month or more wait to start DAS (in January/February). Had I immediately booked everything in advance in August, maybe this could have been compressed to a matter of weeks not months. I waited til Sept/Oct thinking things would die down, but everything stayed booked til January.

    Barely a week after my CBT I bought the GN125, I didn’t want to wait and risk losing time to practice. Knowing it was two months til I’d be training on a 600, that was two months of independent learning I could get.

    Good job too.

    Theory, almost full marks. Getting on big bikes in the cold and stormy rain, hell. Module 1, clean no minors. And then, a week later, one single major fault on the Module 2 and I fail.

    Re-test one month later. Suddenly two days before my re-test we are in lockdown, and being a key worker did jack shit for getting a test booked.

    This is all very CSB/TLDR, but there are a couple points that @nefarious needs to keep in mind.

    I should have booked everything in advance if I wanted the license quickly. I am glad I didn’t.

    I shouldn’t have bought a 125cc if I thought I’d be jumping straight on a bigger bike after DAS. I’m glad I did.

    I hadn’t really decided what kind of motorbike I would ride with a full license, and my intended use turned out totally different.

    Because I didn’t have everything booked in advance, I gained experience just riding. No way was I ready for a 600 last year, and no way was an intensive DAS going to provide me with the skillset to survive on the road.

    The 125cc wasn’t in great shape but that meant I learned essential maintenance and troubleshooting very quickly, as well as what a bike should and shouldn’t feel like. I made all the mistakes on a forgiving little junker.

    My intended use changed dramatically, for the better too. None of the suggestions (MT-07 Tracer, et al) tickled me, and temptation to try a bit of gravel threw me into the world of green lanes. My intended use was to commute to some work, to/from London, and some Euro touring to visit friends. Lockdown, none of that applied any more, and I foresaw that it wouldn’t for a long time. Dry summer, local green lanes, wide bars on a tiny bike and shitloads of fun.

    From the idea of a (heavy) 500-600cc road bike, all the byways pushed me toward lightweight versatile dualsport. I love my DR350, and I wouldn’t have even considered it if I hadn’t failed my Mod2 and spent months on green lanes on the GN125.

    The 125 taught me I needed something bigger, but not heavy, the 600 taught me I didn’t need anything bigger, but certainly lighter. I’d gladly own a 600 as well, but as a second bike.

    With lockdown, I’m not sure what your best course of action will be, but just to warn you, my instructor sent me this photo on Tuesday. The earliest bookings for new tests are the first week of February. You may not have much of a choice if you want to ride before next summer.

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  • Consider how much restraint you know you have. Going from nothing to a 600 in a month if you know yourself to be a little heavy handed might see you in a bush/ditch or worse.
    The learning curve is steep and even if you've driven cars for years, there's nothing like sitting on a 170kg machine with more power than the average hatchback that'll do 0-60 in under 4 seconds.
    As everyone agrees, you will do most of your learning after your test.

    I'm personally really happy I went the way I did. I found riding the 125 frustrating, gear changes where lurchy and the bike would be happy in basically any gear at 20mph which is not the case on larger bikes. It did not feel natural turning, I had the rear wheel slip a couple of times given the size of the tyre being little more than a MTB tyre and I scraped the foot peg on the ground once or twice.
    At the same time it was a lot of fun being out on my own riding around town.

    Swings and roundabouts

    My first bike:
    Suzuki GSR600. Very easy to ride, forgiving, a lot of fun. Cost me £1,700 with 7000 miles on the clock

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  • Yea you have to ride a 125 like a 125, and anything else like a motorbike.

  • I enjoyed my time on a 125, got me out of my cyclist mindset, taught me how to ride a motorbike, when I found my self needed more right wrist I had already done my theory and was doing a 3 lesson DAS.
    Still got the old 125 gathering dust in the back of the garage, really should shift it on

  • I had a blast on 50/80/125/180cc on L plates. Little bikes are wicked fun. Weight sucks the joy out of two wheels for me. You can balance it with more power to some extent but nothing beats light.

  • Simplify, then add lightness

  • The fact I kept it for 15 years without riding it is a bit of a giveaway. :)

  • Still kinda wishing I’d bought it!

  • Just a bit. Lol
    I miss my RGV!

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