To all you 29er's out there!

I just ordered a kris holm, exactly the opposite.

Very serious rim :)

Velocio. I'm going for some Velocity Dyads for my cyclocross/commuter (needs new wheels). Very strong for their weight. The Velocity VXC is very similar but disc only. It could be too narrow though?

apologies for posting this in 2 threads (it's not 29er specific either) but most of the mtb people seem to read this thread.

I have a quick suspension question

I put a cable tie on the top part of the forks then did a wheelie and slammed the front of the bike down (as close as I can get to a jump/dh trail in my garden. The cable tie is now about 15mm from the fork crown, is this a bit close for comfort? I don't want to bottom out on them.

You actually want to use all of your suspension available, there is no point in having it and not using it.

By the top part of the fork I assume you mean the stanchion, 15mm seems alot of travel that's not bring used, depending on the fork model maybe it's a relatively easy fix with a shock pump and 5 mins of your time.

Very serious rim :)

Velocio. I'm going for some Velocity Dyads for my cyclocross/commuter (needs new wheels). Very strong for their weight. The Velocity VXC is very similar but disc only. It could be too narrow though?

That is a little bit narrow.

I was looking at the Mavics, but I was hoping for something a little prettier too.

Hadn't seen the delgadoes before, so I'll maybe look at those.

That is a little bit narrow.

I was looking at the Mavics, but I was hoping for something a little prettier too.

Hadn't seen the delgadoes before, so I'll maybe look at those.

Thought they might be. I put them forward beccause of the attractive profile (not calling you shallow or anything).

The Delgadoes used to one of the most popular 29er rims on the market, but Salsa stopped making the 29er version and now only do the cross version with rim brake machining. If you can find the old 29er version. I'd get them!

Wow I'm good.

http://www.speedgoat.com/Catalog.aspx/Browse?Cat=C154&Prod=15001

umm...I hate to contadict you, Mr S. Furry, but as hardly any of Salsa's bikes come with rim brakes, they use quite a few of the delgado's without a machined rim.

I can get them in the shop if you like, David. I also have a pair on my 29er.

**EDIT**
Salsa do some weird shit.
So, they don't have any of the Delgado's like what I have in stock as an after-market, but they do have the Gordo.

It looks sweet.

http://www.ison-distribution.com/ison/english/product.php?part=RMSAG92X

I was a bit unsure to be honest, and too lazy to double check. They used to sell the un-machined Delgados as separate rims but they disapeared from their site a year or so ago. Still some about though. I'm pretty sure the Gordo used to be different too.

WTB do a range of widths in their 29er rims too, dont know much about them though.
http://www.wtb.com/products/wheels/rims/29er/

These look damn nice:
http://www.wtb.com/products/wheels/rims/29er/laserdisctrail29er/

Thanks for the suggestion there Sf. I like the looks of those.

9.07Kg!
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/scott-scale-949-29er-first-ride-review-26798

Meh.

Mines 8.5ish Kg.

Although it dosent have gears...
...or suspension
...or a chain

So might be cheating ;)

I have bought few months ago a pair of salsa delgado rims at Alternative Cycles.

I was after a silver 29er rim to match the hubs and that's the only one I found.

They currently have them on sale at 35€ per rim.

Meh.

Mines 8.5ish Kg.

Although it dosent have gears...
...or suspension
...or a chain

So might be cheating ;)

8.5 KG!! I know you said yo where a weight weeny but that is amazing!

8.5 KG!! I know you said yo where a weight weeny but that is amazing!

Thats a pretty rough estimate based on component weights. Might be a load more. Most of the weight saving is down to the carbon fork, lack of gears and the belt drive. The Hope XC stuff helps keep the weight down as do the lightweight wheels. If it had gears and front sus, it'd likely be 1 1/2 Kg heavier than that Scott.

Feels crazy light to ride though, jumps soooo easily.

If this for 29ers...

1500g, not much lighter than an alu frame though.

Thats a pretty rough estimate based on component weights. Might be a load more. Most of the weight saving is down to the carbon fork, lack of gears and the belt drive. The Hope XC stuff helps keep the weight down as do the lightweight wheels. If it had gears and front sus, it'd likely be 1 1/2 Kg heavier than that Scott.

Feels crazy light to ride though, jumps soooo easily.

8.5 is a good weight. I am struggling to get my Kona Major One under 9kg (I know it is the tyres/tubes holding it back but I hate punctures!) Needless to say they weigh a bit more than the claimed 17.9lb (8.13kg) on the Kona website.

Still great to use a 9kg bike off road though and as you say they really do take off rather easily.

8.5 is a good weight. I am struggling to get my Kona Major One under 9kg (I know it is the tyres/tubes holding it back but I hate punctures!) Needless to say they weigh a bit more than the claimed 17.9lb (8.13kg) on the Kona website.

Still great to use a 9kg bike off road though and as you say they really do take off rather easily.

Go tubless. Pricey for a CX set-up though.

The heaviest parts of my 29er (relatively speaking) are my tyres. But they earn their place on the bike by giving great traction (to compensate for the lack gears), and cushioning (to compensate for the lack of suspension).

The better the cushion of the tyres, the less need for suspension I assume?

I did felt that when I use the Fat Frank 26x 2.35 tyres, going off roading is a beaut with that tyres.

I have 2.55" 29er tyres, which give a big contact area, for traction. They also make the ride alot smoother, as a well set-up suspension fork would. They dont give 100/160 mm of travel though, so you have to ride differently to compensate.

The better the cushion of the tyres, the less need for suspension I assume?

mechanical grip.
suspension is not just for 'bumps' anyone switching from hardtail to a well sorted suspension design will see/feel this straight away.

mechanical grip.
suspension is not just for 'bumps' anyone switching from hardtail to a well sorted suspension design will see/feel this straight away.

This too.

A good suspension set-up pushes yours tyres onto the trail, during those times they would normaly be bouncing over it. Hitting very rocky patches during a fast turn on a fully rigid bike, demonstrates this in a very real way.

dont buy the tubeless thing at all, unless you just race the bike and nothing else.
just saying.

The puncture protection looks excellent from all the videos, although I don't like the fact it makes changing tyres more awkward and potentially wasteful.

have you actually tried tubeless? or is that an armchair theory?

having swapped from hope xc/bulb hubs with xm321 rims and 2.2 michelin AM tyres (the lighter ones not the comp16 black ones) to hope straight pull/stans flows/conti rubber queen 2.2's i have lost a whole kilo off the weight of my bike. this is rotating weight so the best area to loose the lb's from. the tyres are huge for a 2.2 but the rolling resistance is improved massively along with grip due to the lower pressures i can run and lack of tube. don't forget the self sealing if i get a puncture.
i'm not going back to tubes, tubeless is full of win.

just sayin. no offense like.

Is that aimed at me?

no. i'm a slow at typing.