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  • Similar problem here. Not a terrible problem to have though.

  • It's definitely one of the least of my worries!

  • Trying to offload some records before I leave London;

    https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/3391­66/#comment14922596

    Mostly techno/house/disco. Got more to add but little time.

    Happy to do deals.

    Based in Forest Hill. Come have a listen!

  • Record Store Day delayed till June, possibly wishful thinking.

    What's everyone highlights on the list?

    https://recordstoreday.co.uk/media/10200­61/printable-2020-list-7420.pdf

  • Couldn't get past 'G' before giving up. I'm not usually a fan though. I have a few on order with the distributor but there's not much there I want.

    Is it all about rarity and flipping on the 'bay? Seems like there's a lot more miss than hit as the years go by.

    I've ordered Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble but I'm pretty sure I already have a CD version!

  • Chuck Moseley (which will probably be terrible, but Chuck...), Spacemen 3, Meat Puppets, Slowdive all interesting.

    I gave a couple of thousand albums to charity when I moved onto my boat as I didn't have room and wasn't going to get around to selling them. Then my gf bought me a new deck for Xmas, so having to start a vinyl collection from scratch. I have a grand total of 23 LPs right now...

  • Is there any info on which of these have no digital steps in the recording, mastering, and pressing?

  • You're almost always going to need to dig for that information. I would assume that they are not entirely analog unless expressly and obviously marketed as such. The rare ones that are AAA and not described that way are sweet finds but rare.

  • Cheers, I thought that might be the case. While I like the fact that vinyl records are regaining popularity, I'm only really interested in AAA ones, as just pressing digital files onto vinyl is pointless. It's a long way back before most people re-realise the value of good analogue recordings (not counting those who already have). That's not to mention low-quality or average analogue recordings, which of course would likewise come back.

  • I'm way way beyond that kind of reckoning. I have a lot of records, have done from teenage years, never stopped. I've been collecting a lot of AAA pressings. If you want to only buy AAA then look at Speakers Corner, really good value in Europe.

    I could talk all day about all analogue pressings but I'm not a devotee and don't believe there's no reason to own a digital file pressed onto vinyl.

    Watch Michael Fremers "All Analog records you should own" video and buy as many as you can. I have over half of them and he's picked a great bunch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6omFwnr­Mn0

  • I could talk all day about all analogue pressings but I'm not a devotee and don't believe there's no reason to own a digital file pressed onto vinyl.

    I don't either--what I said, and believe, is that it's pointless to press a digital file onto an LP. There will still be artists I like who will do just that and I'll still buy their records, much as I buy things on CD. You just always wonder 'what if ... ?'

  • You'll have to forgive my misunderstanding, you believe it's pointless to press a digital file onto vinyl but you still buy them. We could get along after all :)

  • Regarding analog vs digital pressing. Rating the quality of pressings is case by case and there is no reason why a digital file can't sound great on vinyl. I think the response to the loudness wars is passing, its no longer necessary to get a vinyl copy of something not to have it brick walled.

    I would be interested for example in hearing Kevin Gray remaster a digital album but I've no interest in anything Miles Showell is doing at Abbey Road where everything has to be digitised to work on the 1/2 speed cutting rig.

    I like 1/2 of the MOFI roster for mastering and to me they all have a very strong signature sound. But I'm basically a Kevin Gray fanboy. His Electric Warrior and Astral Weeks are brilliant.

  • Well, yes, it's just basic pragmatism. I've been buying CDs since the 80s and was part of that generation that had everything suddenly being reissued on CD--people four or five years older than me didn't have that growing up. It was only much later that I realised, prompted by a friend of mine, what the problems were, even with the best CD transfers (and the ones in the 80s were mostly shit, but still better than some of the 'remasters' you get nowadays--brrrr).

    While I very much hope that analogue recording and analogue records will become the industry standard again, I'm under no illusion that some people will always prefer convenience over quality. And yes, plenty of stuff I'm interested in I can only get easily on CD, and I'll listen to things in even worse quality on-line if I can't get the record. Modern life is rubbish, after all.

  • Regarding analog vs digital pressing. Rating the quality of pressings is case by case and there is no reason why a digital file can't sound great on vinyl.

    Yes, obviously there have always been terrible analogue recordings, and rather fewer very good ones. There's still the potential that digital will never have because it cuts off a good deal of the sound, the foldover effect, and so on.

    And certainly, even CDs can sound good--I was just listening to the CD transfer of 'Turn of a Friendly Card', and it's very good, but the original album is simply better. The highest echelons of analogue in the 70s were just amazing, and then much of that technology was thrown away for commercial expediency.

  • I'm still agreeing with you but only just. Listen to some recording from the 50's, Belafonte at Carnegie Hall was recorded with 3 mics, that was an orchestra, band and singer. We've forgotten more than we learned and the proliferation of cheaper means to record has freed people to perform and record but the quality is vastly diminished.

    I've been happy with digital audio at 24/96 for many years. I can't hear any difference between the source and the recording. I'm happy playing my 24/96 recordings of vinyl. I don't believe there's any cut off of the sound within the audible frequencies, unless it's compressed digital you're talking about.

  • The first record I ever released (in '87) was all analogue, recorded on two inch multitrack, mastered to quarter inch and then cut onto acetate at Porky's... Everything I recorded after that first release went onto a DAT master, it's been happening for longer than most people realise...

  • Ha, fuck off... 👴

  • My understanding has always been that a full bandwidth digital master is as close to analogue as you can get... It's only when shoddy labels release vinyl mastered from an audio CD source that you get into trouble...

    For some counterpoint, I bought an original Australian mono copy of the first Who LP a few months back... It's the worst pressing I've ever fucking heard of anything... Nice sleeve tho'...

  • Yeah. But the who.
    Would have been shit even if they were in The room cutting it live.

  • I'm gonna bite...

    I think The Who may have been the greatest of all the big UK 60s bands... Light and dark, amazing high energy songs, beautifully played, dynamic arrangements, feedback, sweet harmonies... The older I get, the more I appreciate them...

    IMVHO they lost their way after Sell Out but they still managed to make some great music...

  • Hahahaha!

  • +1 on The Who. One of the only bargains I've ever got at a record fair was a great pressing of Who's Next, I had no expectations but there are several synth dominated tracks on there and the guitar sounds so good. Pete Townshend was really into his arp 2600, he set it up like a pedal for some stuff.

    Missed out on the re run of the Arp 2600, that would be quite a thing. If you've not seen the video about the remaking it's well worth it. Features a few Pete Townshend patches for the synth.

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