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  • Air cargo at airport, reserve logistics in armed forces.

  • Fully batshit then.

  • Well, at least Mike pays more taxes than Bill does ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Nice but but flips to hysterical in an instant. I don’t know how much longer he will last here.
    I think something bad happened to make him like this. He never talks about family of childhood. Maybe he is inventing a new reality for himself?

  • People who are good at selling books online/ people who are good at finding electric car companies and then legally forcing them to make them 'founders' / people that are good at programming computers because their parents are rich and sent them to a good school:

    These people should not be determining where charitable funds go. The end result of this is Bill Gates mass circumcising a load of African guys in some (very weird) attempt to reduce STIs that resulting in a big increase in STIs as they didn't explain their reasoning to the circumcised properly.

    Central govs should be allocating these funds via proper taxation in the first instance to state healthcare where it will have the biggest outcomes.

    These guys make their money of nation states (see Branson getting various state handouts round the world to prop up his travel companies, Telsa surviving on selling on green credits to other car companies Bill Gates early computer access. They then want to dictate how money is spent eg Gates huge influence over the World Health Org. Sociopaths gonna sociopath. They aren't helping things. You can give me examples where they have thrown money at stuff but it is totally on their terms. Not democratic. Fuck em.

  • Apologies for the thread derail but relevant as Bill Gates appears in a lot of conspiracy bullshit. He is however IRL massive cunt who should not be making life changing decisions for lots of people. Behind the Bastards' pod on Bill Gates. Eye opener.

    Edit: when Mr Gates split from his last wife he had a life crisis, decided to party and hooked up with another friend of the thread, Jeffrey Epstein. His name is logged on the 'Lolita Express' flight records.

  • The end result of this is Bill Gates mass circumcising a load of African guys in some (very weird) attempt to reduce STIs that resulting in a big increase in STIs as they didn't explain their reasoning to the circumcised properly.

    Except that the science shows that the Gates Foundation encouraging men to choose to be circumcised has made a significant impact on HIV transmission in SA.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33615145­/

  • Edit: when Mr Gates split from his last wife he had a life crisis, decided to party and hooked up with another friend of the thread, Jeffrey Epstein. His name is logged on the 'Lolita Express' flight records.

    You might want to check your facts on this chief. Reuters has a page dedicated to debunking this.

  • Well, yes, I know why Bill pays less tax than me. It was more to point out the inherent unfairness of this.

  • : when Mr Gates split from his last wife he had a life crisis, decided to party and hooked up with another friend of the thread, Jeffrey Epstein. His name is logged on the 'Lolita Express' flight records.

    Epstein died two years before thier marriage ended...

    .... Or that's what they want you to believe

  • Because he lives in California which has a top state marginal income tax rate of 13.3% versus the U.K. where it’s 45%?

    I appreciate there are more factors that go into an individual’s tax rate, but in my experience wealthy tax residents of the USA are generally taxed at a lower rate than in the U.K.

  • They aren't helping things. You can give me examples where they have thrown money at stuff but it is totally on their terms. Not democratic. Fuck em.

    100% this.

  • I feel fairly confident his allocation of money has led to more lives positively impacted than if it had just gone in to US general taxation where it could of helped subsides more fossil fuels and drone purchases

    Doesn't mean he's a good guy or it's the correct solution but the alternative isn't that all his additional tax you think he should of paid would of gone to good causes by the state

  • I take your point that all taxes would not go to great causes.
    I wonder how much extra money govs are missing out on in tax through complex legal offshore tax avoidance. Maybe it's not and simple as saying that extra money would be distributed in the same way.

    Jon Ronson posits the theory that people who rise to the top within capitalism may be the most sociopathic. Do we want a system that allows democratic institutions to be bypasses in deciding how aid money is spent.

  • I'll have to listen to the pod again. I think reliable evidence to support the claim the Gates circumcision drive (might be) difficult to come by? The study you linked to earlier has a member of the gates Foundation as one of the authors so isnt independent.

    IIRC they were saying Gates is such a big funder of the WHO he insists on pushing through major policy decisions against better judgement. The circumcision program was one such instance.

    I tried doing a bit of googling on the topic. One study seemed to suggest condom use went up around the trial and this had contributed to the lower sti rates reported.

    As I say I'd have to re listen to the pod might not be remembering the above totally correctly as reported.

  • Interesting Reuters investigation on Gates / Epstein flights.

    He has admitted on camera to meeting Epstein several times.

    I think the timeline goes that Gates split with his wife after Epstein died but had met with Epstein whilst marriage was on the rocks.

  • Do we want a system that allows democratic institutions to be bypasses in deciding how aid money is spent.

    Counterpoint: do we want a system that allows an activist minority, or a self-interested simple majority, to decide how aid money is spent?

  • Are you called Mike?

    Asking for @davidual

  • Lot of simping for billionaires going on here, you love to see it.

    It’s a fact that Gates met with Epstein many times, and melinda gates is on the record that Bill’s association with Epstein is one of the many reasons she fucked him off (https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/03­/melinda-gates-jeffrey-epstein-led-to-bi­ll-gates-divorce-gayle-king-interview/am­p)

    All Reuters seems to debunk is any claim that Gates went to Little St James. “Yes he hung out with the renowned sex trafficker, but he never went to pedo island” isn’t a resounding defence imo.

  • Fwiw I listened to that podcast.
    The information was interesting but man the chat was garbage overall. Tough to listen to.
    Anyway they've removed the circumcision bit and issued a correction saying it was wrong.

  • I pointed out that Gates had not been to paedo island because the term "lolita express" means that particular flight path. I didn't say anything about his association with him. Facts matter.

  • I think popular understanding is that Epstein’s private jet was referred to as the Lolita express regardless of where it was flying. I’ve never heard of it only being referenced in the limited capacity of that particular flight path.

  • The state of you guys.

    Pointing out factual stuff about somenody isn't simping. I oppose the existence of the billionaire class.

    Not every associate of Epstein is a paedophile.

    Just because one person on a metastudy formerly worked for Gates does not mean the findings of all the sub studies are invalid.

    Opinions based on assumptions are shaky as fuck.

  • Not every associate of Epstein is a pedophile, no, but not sure I’ve seen anyone here say that gates is a pedophile?

    I just think hanging out with dubious pedophiles is itself not great, regardless of whether you yourself are doing any of the noncing, and bill’s association with Epstein post-dates Epsteins first conviction, so he can’t exactly say “hey man, I didn’t know what kind of person he was”.

    Reflects, at best, appalling judgment on his behalf.

  • I'm certainly not trying to pick a fight, I'm enjoying the discussion.

    I looked at that study again, it wasn't one individual on it who worked for Gates Foundation, the whole study is published by Gates Foundation and if I've read correctly, before peer review.

    @ DJ if the comments I've made so far make me a flat earther then sign me up I guess.

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