Any question answered...

The plusgas is definitely coming out. They're steel bmx cranks, so they're pretty solidly rusted together. No wiggle room for a little wiggle forward and back to get things moving. If it comes to it, I'll take the cranks off, take the pedal body off, grind tow flats on it, grip it in a vice and turn the cranks with a scaf pole.

Jesus fuck, I know which way a pedal turns.

And to hell with paying over the odds for a nasty piece of stamped tin. The pedal Is amazingly seized though, the bike got dropped in the canal and I never stripped it down and greased it properly afterwards because I'm indolent. It might end up involving a blowtorch...

snap on do a long 15 mm spanner with a flank drive which engages the flat of the pedal not the edge. I have managed to get seized pedals of with this where others (Park) have failed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SNAP-15MM-COMBINATION-SPANNER-FLANK-DRIVE-SOEXM15-NEW-/281057463630?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4170548d4e

Ta rogan- did you use some chemical to de bond the glue or just lots of wiggling?

A lot of pedal spanners are terrible, cut out of a sheet. Like an extra thick cone spanner.

The only commonly available forged pedal spanner seems to be the Cyclo one. I think I would prefer to use a high quality car brand one, like snap-on though. And attach a pole for leverage as an when needed.

I have done it before and it worked fine.

Snap on ones are too thick to use on a pedal, from experience. Hence having a modded halfords pro spanner

Looks like its not forged. Didn't someone on here make a pedal/chain whip? Thought that all pedal spanners would be more than just sheet style cone spanners.

I have that ^ park one, it seems pretty sturdy.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cyclo/forged-pedal-spanner-ec038597?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=froogle&utm_content=mkwid__pcrid_17321847296_kword__match__plid_

looks pretty good

Ta rogan- did you use some chemical to de bond the glue or just lots of wiggling?

just wiggling, you cant get much leverage on the socket without damaging the thread unless you take them off from the insole and its dead easy to take them apart when you do

snap on do a long 15 mm spanner with a flank drive which engages the flat of the pedal not the edge. I have managed to get seized pedals of with this where others (Park) have failed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SNAP-15MM-COMBINATION-SPANNER-FLANK-DRIVE-SOEXM15-NEW-/281057463630?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item4170548d4e

That flank drive looks interesting, never spotted that before. The pedal has a massive flat, so it would definitely fit. £27 hurts though.

Ebay-fu!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/snapon-15mm-spanner-combination-wrench-/111094087959#vi-content

Ebay-fu!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/snapon-15mm-spanner-combination-wrench-/111094087959#vi-content

good enough, but not flank drive! (you can't round of the flats with flank drive!)

Flats on a pedal axle are usually much longer than on a hexagonal bolt of the same AF dimension, so you shouldn't need flank drive unless you've already done a lot of damage.

Is there a beginner's guide anywhere as to how different geometry affects a bike. I have a reasonable idea from the differences between mtb frames to road bike and so on but it'd be nice to know I've not just made it all up. Most places just take the knowledge for granted. Cheers

I use a cheap pedal spanner. It has never failed me. I am fucking awesome though.

Its fine if you are always working with pedals you have fitted yourself on well kept bikes. But if you have ratty old beater magpie syndrome like me and find yourself playing with various heaps of boot sale spoils every other weekend, you do come into seized pedals (and stems) pretty often.

For normal purposes, a pedal spanner is not even necessary. A short basic multipurpose spanner is fine. But at other times, I have absolutely needed to do shit like this;

And even then, it had a fair bit of resistance before it broke loose.

I reckon a combination of a) and c)

I reckon it's being turned the wrong way.

Brekkie fight!

Water bill in credit - can I actually get the money off them or do those tax dodging, bonus paying cuntos at Thames Water hold onto my money to pay for coke and hookers?

Just leave the taps on all day

Do they not just deduct from your next bill?

Does anyone know where - today, in London - I can buy SPD-SL cleat covers?

Condor AFAIK have some.

Cheers Ed! I'll head over there later :)

Water bill in credit - can I actually get the money off them or do those tax dodging, bonus paying cuntos at Thames Water hold onto my money to pay for coke and hookers?

I got a cheque.

Took a while. Admittedly my experience prior to this with thames water was appalling. Make sure you speak to someone UK based and every time they say they'll credit it just say no that's alright I'd like a cheque as I may be moving.

Or just shit through their letter box.

Ti or 953?

Ti or 953?
UTFS, apparently...