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  • "There is a feeling among the community..." What hogshit.

  • I look at my CDs and it's mostly dreck.
    With some stuff people did compilation/mix tapes for me thrown in. So sentimenal, but still dreck.

  • My experience with a laptop maybe slightly different as I use it wired when at my desk as to charge it. Though for what it’s worth it can connect to multiple devices at once. So no switching necessary.

    I’ve not heard either the BTR3/5 I’m afraid.

  • is that a style of music?!

  • BBC info-tainment innit

  • For me, NAS->laptop->DAC is a better option than something like a Brennan.

    It's much more flexible, much less prone to redundancy, you can chose your own software and interfaces.

    I ripped 1000+ CDs using dB Poweramp which is a decent bit of software. Yeah, there are quite a few I've never listened to but there are many hundreds that I have listened to, and still do, regularly.

    My sources of music:
    Ripped CDs
    Internet Radio (Fip Jazz, Fip Groove, occasionally Radio Paradise)
    DAB (Radio 6 Music)

    In approximate order of decending usage.

  • CD Ripping - I did most of my collection years ago when iPods were fairly new, it all went when my computer died. Can’t imagine putting myself through it again. There’s not much from my collection that I can’t find on Spotify or Tidal so I don’t store any music files. Just wonder what the benefits are. Is it the higher res, obscure collections not found on streaming libraries or more that there’s a sense of ownership that you’re accessing music that you’ve actually bought on a physical format?

  • Yep, I'd agree with NAS and Chromecast or Raspberry Pi or whatever to play.

    The player is the bit that's most likely to date so I'd try and separate them and you'll also gene more flexibility for multiple players (e.g using Plex to play remotely).

    I also used DBPoweramp for ripping. It's good for ripping with decent tags and minimal errors.

  • More the latter, I guess.

    The music in my collection is there for a reason. It's personal.

    I find that my mind goes blank when confronted with a streaming service.

    "Oh, it's like, all the music in the world on here, yeah?"

    Then I have no idea what to put on.

  • I think it all dates back to when you either owned it to play at your leisure (which was a great feeling) or you waited to hear it on the radio. Taping was a national pastime though.

    Funny how there's not really a John Peel for music lovers despite everything being available. When you see the size of his collection it makes you wonder if he ever listened to most of it, just not enough time available.

  • I’m with you. I’ve started compiling a collection within Tidal, that’s helping, but it’s nothing like running my finger along my CD racks.

    So as I no longer own a computer with a CD drive presumably you can buy a USB one inexpensively. What do these software apps I’ve seen mentioned here do? Do they make it much more efficient than it used to be using iTunes?
    I bought a FLAC download of Radiohead’s OK Not OK the other day to see what it’s about. It sounded great but it took several minutes to download. How long are we looking at to rip say 100 discs these days?

  • I always wonder that. How do they take the time to let an album get under their skin over several listens? They do though. Marc Riley is my modern day Peel, not the same variety but if you like things that sound like The Fall you’re well served.

  • I ripped 70 last week, it took me about 40 hours I would guess. That's to end up with them fully tagged and in folders with the album cover as the icon. It's a pretty intense process. I started with XLD but switched to a demo dbPoweramp which is a smoother experience.

    I like the Fall stuff but Peel used to play Dub, Techno, Folk, Rock, Punk, Prog, pretty much anything that took his fancy. There are some great you tube videos of diggers getting access to his library. Of course physical rarity plays such a big part, you can put together a great collection pretty cheaply it's when you want the rare stuff it gets difficult.

    Try Roon if you want something next level. They connect music and provide an intelligent wrapper for streaming from Tidal or Qubuz, it does cost a couple of hundred a year though for Roon and the streaming service.

    I enjoy the Roon experience a lot but it's great to look through the record or CD spines and pick something you wouldn't have searched for or stumbled across.

  • Oh wow, I definitely understand the appeal but is that right, over half an hour each disc? I’ve got several hundred in the loft, I would never have the patience. Must be great rediscovering all the old gems, mind.

  • I bought a job lot. I guess I've ripped over a thousand by now. I don't think there's ever been a better time to put together a cd collection :)

    When I say 40 hours that was my guess at the time I spent at my desk, I did manage to get some other stuff done at the same time (like reading this forum!).

    I'm very deep into a recorded music phase at the moment. Sometimes I do more music production but the last few years have been about discovering new music.

  • Ripping my cds takes less than 5 minutes per album at 320 kbps, I can no longer hear the difference at higher quality.

  • Something like dbpoweramp has a lot of settings to let you rip exactly as you want, customise tagging, cover art, error checking, etc.

    Generally it takes about 5 minutes a CD but it can be longer if it has errors, can't find a match in the database, etc.

  • I ripped all my CD's to FLAC years ago. It's not so much about the time to Rip. It's more about the opening / extract CD / put new CD in caddy / close and rip again.

    Also, after ripping you want to error check the rip and do metadata stuff.

  • Yeah, I'd say about 5 mins per CD on average.

    I ripped all mine to FLAC. I've also used dB Poweramp to batch convert stuff ffom.the FLAC library to MP3 for use in the car, portable etc.

  • my thoughts on this are:

  • Useful recommendations here, thanks! I need to free off the large bookcase occupied by CDs because it's needed...for books

  • I ripped all my CDs to FLAC - I used EAC, not tried DBpoweramp - I guess they're all the same. I use a NAS to stream to a DAC. As per above - NAS does other stuff and the whole setup can be kept up to date more easily.

    Took about a year to do all the CDs - I just used to do a few every now and again. I buy all music via downloads these days - 7digital, bandcamp, junodownload etc.

  • I guess I've ripped over a thousand by now. I don't think there's ever been a better time to put together a cd collection :

    I think about this quite a lot, I imagine people dumped vinyl way more slowly in the late 80s, than people dumping cds now.

  • I look at my CDs and it's mostly dreck.

    I took 200 odd of our CDs to Oxfam the other year as I simply wasn't picking any of them off the shelf to play (and they were mostly dreck). We probably kept 40 or so that we really didn't want to part with, still rarely play them.

    Despite a strong hi fi heritage (which is why I lurk in this thread) I've got no recognisable hi fi system at home, there's a shit Sony mini system in the sitting room under the telly and most of the music gets played through quelle horreur an Amazon Echo Dot via Spotify, to be fair, it's mostly just radio, Baby Shark, or songs from Moana. All in glorious mono. I've got various bits (NAD 5440 and some random amp and speakers, etc) in cupboards around the flat but neither the time/space/need/inclination to sort it all out.

    I think I'm blessed with sub-average quality hearing.

    Loving the USB noise filters and digital signal balancers chat. Good to see that degrees of snake oil lives on in the digital world.

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Audiophiles hi fi appreciation thread old and new

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