Are these wheels good value?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BANKRUPT-TRACK-FIXTIE-WHEELS-FIXED-COURIER-FLIP-FLOP_W0QQitemZ170369556069QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item27aad11e65&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1558wt_736

thoughts anyone?

seem like it.

they look fine go for it!

I considered something like this, but on the basis of comments in another thread, opted to get a pair of One On track hubs (£35 inc p&p for both), which I'll get built up with a pair of Mavic Open Sport rims (£21.99 each). With the build it will come to a bit more than these, but hopefully should be better quality. That said, I'm no expert.

Hubs are here: http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Rear.html
Rims are here: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=17148

I considered something like this, but on the basis of comments in another thread, opted to get a pair of One On track hubs (£35 inc p&p for both), which I'll get built up with a pair of Mavic Open Sport rims (£21.99 each). With the build it will come to a bit more than these, but hopefully should be better quality. That said, I'm no expert.

Hubs are here: http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Rear.html
Rims are here: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=17148
i would go down this route if you dont mind getting them built! you will get better wheels!

That's what I thought, and there is plenty of advice on decent wheelbuilders on here.

I considered something like this, but on the basis of comments in another thread, opted to get a pair of One On track hubs (£35 inc p&p for both), which I'll get built up with a pair of Mavic Open Sport rims (£21.99 each). With the build it will come to a bit more than these, but hopefully should be better quality. That said, I'm no expert.

Hubs are here: http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Rear.html
Rims are here: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=17148

don't forget spokes, and rims tape (or cheap electric tape will do), and if you can build it, spare a tenner for a bloke here to do it for you.

I have that exact back wheel, and I also have that front hub waiting to be turned into a wheel once the rim and spokes arrive. I'm pretty big, and my wheels take a fair beating, but the back wheel has held out magnificently so far.

Highly recommended, provided you get it built well (I borrowed a mate who knows what he's doing!)

don't forget spokes, and rims tape (or cheap electric tape will do), and if you can build it, spare a tenner for a bloke here to do it for you.

35+22+22+4+14=£97ish if you build yourself.

open sports to on one would be much better than the original wheels suggested IMHO.

The OP wheels look fine but as Velo libre demonstrates, its not hard to put something better together for a tenner or so more. Also, this means you can fine tune your build to your needs/weight (spoke count, number of crossings, etc), and replacing broken parts in the future will be far easier.

Been thinking bout doing the same. Will be the first wheel set I build myself. You guys reckon it's worth spending a bit more and get open pro's instead of open sports? Or should I leave that til I actually know what I'm doing?

Definitly, an extra £15 per wheel for a noticable upgrade.

Been thinking bout doing the same. Will be the first wheel set I build myself. You guys reckon it's worth spending a bit more and get open pro's instead of open sports? Or should I leave that til I actually know what I'm doing?
i was in the same position as you and i think im going to go with open sports, imo theres no point getting open pros unless you want a nice light build, open sport are fine for pootling about streets and sprinting on, think of all those wheels which cost around £150 and higher, i doubt many would have open pros yet they are still fine wheels, i doubt that you get many with open sports on either. . . waits to be corrected

i was in the same position as you and i think im going to go with open sports, imo theres no point getting open pros unless you want a nice light build, open sport are fine for pootling about streets and sprinting on, think of all those wheels which cost around £150 and higher, i doubt many would have open pros yet they are still fine wheels, i doubt that you get many with open sports on either. . . waits to be corrected

I agree open sports (+rigida and alex rims) are used alot for £150ish wheels.
They are decent rims.

But IMHO open pro is a big upgrade for only £15 extra each.

I agree open sports (+rigida and alex rims) are used alot for £150ish wheels.
They are decent rims.

But IMHO open pro is a big upgrade for only £15 extra each.
If you dont mind could you tell what is better about open pros? i assume they are lighter, are they also stronger?

Don't do it. I just brought a wheelset from that guy the one thats 10 pounds cheaper with no name rims. Absolutely crap. The hubs claimed to be sealed bearing but are actually cup and cone. The rims are pretty much made out of cheese and the nipple sticks right into the tube. I used them for one week and then my mate did one decent skid on it and destroyed the back rim. I spent that night learning about wheel building and laced a mavic rim on. Next day I hit a taxi (very minor hit) and destroyed the front rim. Cue another crash course in wheel building. I know rims aren't meant to take that sort of abuse but they were both really minor hits that shouldn't do more then put them out of true a bit. Also the rear cones are already rooted but thats partly my own fault because when the back rim folded I thought I'd fuck it properly by riding home without a tyre...

The guy who runs that bankrupt site was very apologetic and is sending me a front fork to make up for the fuck around because I didn't want my money back after already rebuilding the wheels. But that doesn't change the fact that his wheels are crap. On the plus side I learned that wheel building isn't such a big deal after all so won't be having to buy complete wheels anymore

^ surely would have been sensible to ask for money back as they were mis sold?

and sheldon brown has a good thing for building wheels, helped me do my first, i haven't ridden it yet but looks nice! (open sport to zenith/iro/formula/systemex)

^ surely would have been sensible to ask for money back as they were mis sold?

and sheldon brown has a good thing for building wheels, helped me do my first, i haven't ridden it yet but looks nice! (open sport to zenith/iro/formula/systemex)

Yeah idealy thats right but working as a courier so I couldn't aford to be off work while I send the wheels back for replacement.

If you dont mind could you tell what is better about open pros? i assume they are lighter, are they also stronger?

I'm not sure the rim itelf is stronger to be honest, and the braking surfaces should be equally good. They may build up easier though, which would lead to a stronger wheel. They do have double eyelets as opposed to the single on open sports. This reinforces the spoke rim contact area which is the bit under the most stress. So again a wheel built from them could be more resiliant. I've read stuff about spoke nipples being able to move in the rim easier with double eyelets, which reduces the twist which can build up from tensioning the spoke (This sounds a bit over the top to me though). I confess an important factor for me, would be that they are 65g lighter (a fair amount on a rim).

I think bang-for-buck wise open sports are fantastic rims. I just personally feel I would spend the little extra for the upgrade. But then I have a titanium axled BB with ceramic bearings in my steel fixie skidder bike. So I'd in no way recommend my bike-part spending habits ;)

You have WHAT IN YOUR BB? please say this is track bike? not your ultr coolz fixie skidder? also 65g in one of the places where you can feel extra weight the most. . . still tyre weight could compensate. goes off to utfs about double eyelets

Its a Bob Jackson, I put together for cruising country roads. Just cant resist gimmicky high tech bike parts. I've got a half built-up steel 29er with a one piece carbon bar and stem :S

Your just going to be shouted at by me if you carry on, "pointless, pointless, pointless" you will hear me cry! i could just about understand the ceramic bearings if you want a really smooth bb but ti :S thats not the best material for a bb, you always here about them cracking. . .

I was about to buy a £50 Campag pista BB, but was unsure due to the lack of sealing. Then spotted this high tech jobbie for the same price but half the weight on EBay (right axle lengh and taper). Thing is I'm pretty sure the biggest friction point is the bearing seals, so the Campag might actually spin better.
Feck it, they feel nice, dont look like failing any time soon, lighten the bike, and I enjoyed the purchase. Picking up nice components is a big part of the fun of putting a bike together for me.

£50!? you lucky git! i suppose i would of passed the chance though as i dont have money burning holes in my pocket like you ;)

That said, I'm no expert.

Glad to see that my hunch has been confirmed by greater knowledge and experience.