Which Tyres?

All very true but the tribulations upthread were to do with skinny high pressures and tubeless. Your fatties are more akin to gravel and MTB tyres for which consensus is firm that it's more worth while

Base tape is always usually slightly wider than the rim? Acts as another barrier to pinch flats and makes getting them off the rim again easier too.
Dugast offer their tubs with choice of base tapes to fit specific rim widths so you can definitely tune the look with spendy options but looks like you have a tyre designed to accommodate rims wider than you are using.

Some Dugast pista silk with similar base tape to rim width issue from their website; it's a feature not a bug.

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Why no love for Marathons on these pages? 32/35mm all the way for me in winter. Agreement that they don't roll well compared to lighter tyres but they never puncture. Good on towpaths too. At 14 stone, I can deal with being slower
but the last thing I want to do is wrestle with a tyre on a cold wet roadside.

"Road" tubeless? They look like Horizons. How wide are they?

Anyone riding mostly road or London commuting on 650x47c tyres?

I did. With Horizons on the Tripster. I liked them. You can go super low pressure... right up until they fold over on you cornering. I went to more knobby tyres (not the for commute) simply because I was using it off-road.

Why no love for Marathons on these pages?

Because the marketing departments have all been very effective in making people who commute 5mi each way think that Crr and supple sidewalls and other 'race' shit is important.

Right, now to proper tyre chat. I wanna go touring on my MTB over winter.

Lots of road, lots of off-road (yeah, the best combo to pick a tyre for)

Schwalbe Johnny Watts do a 29x2.35"

"The Schwalbe Johnny Watts combines smooth running on hard surfaces with long durability and puncture protection, like no other profile. Off-road, he conveys a lot of security, on bike paths he rolls whisper quiet.

versatile tread for a wide range of uses from asphalt to off-road
lugs with large contact areas for excellent, low-vibration rolling characteristics and high durability even, good-natured cornering behavior on hard surfaces"

What else (yeah, sorry Marathon guy I know they're the answer, the truth, follow the light)

(my off-road isn't double backflips, it's walking up and down everything anyway, so I probably should be looking for snow shoes, but anyway...)

Despite previously trying road tubeless, in 25c width, and giving up on it for being too much of a faff, I’m road tubeless curious again as I seem to be getting a lot of punctures on the shitty lanes around here.

I can fit 30 mm in the current winter bike, possibly 32 mm at a push. Is anyone running the same and having more success than I had before? (Don’t think 25 mm tyres have enough volume to work tubeless at higher pressures, plan for this bike would to run no higher than 65 psi).

How heavy are you and what pressure could you get away with on 30/32mm tyres?

Vittoria corsa tubeless. 30c.
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Had similar issues with 90psi 25c tubeless. Currently running Cinturatos in 32, run around 65psi at 75kg. They are spot on.

72 kgs.

I can fit 30 mm in the current winter bike, possibly 32 mm at a push. Is anyone running the same and having more success than I had before?

I run 30mm G-One/S-Ones on my ultracycling/Audax bike. Never had any issues, except when I overtightened the valve core and cracked the 80mm tubeless valve. Running on LightBicycle 30W/56D rims.

I think 25mm is pushing it, but I’ve had very solid success tubeless with 28s and above.

Yeah, I agree. A lesson I learnt myself.

Will try 30 mm and see how I get on.

Thanks everyone.

Yeah they are 650x47b l&s, the roads are proper shit round here ;)

I also did with horizons, commuting for 18m (due to lockdown) and for all road riding for about 2.5 years. I didn’t love them in the wet commuting, but apart fro that fine. Very few punctures that needed attention, easy to set up tho needed a decent load of sealant at first. Could also look at teravail rampart, g one speed.

The larger tyre does feel quite different to a 30mm road tyre.

Ok, so long as we've clarified that the 29x2.60 that I've ridden on the road isn't a road tyre, I think we can proceed.

Tubeless road is shit. :-P

Sub 700x30c tubeless isn’t something I would do again.

Sub 700x30c tubeless isn’t something anyone with more than 2psi to rub together would do again.

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how off road is the off touring going to be? I’d be tempted-if tubeless- to just buy fast mtb tyres and not factor touring into the equation. Where are you going? can i come?

It's winter, so how far off road will probably be mostly weather dependent.

I reckon you're probably right and I'll just leave on what I have. I'm just a sucker for trying new tyres.

The tent would be a bit too cozy with three, soz. ;)

Any ideas if Teravail and or WTB tyres are hookless rim compatible?
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All tubeless tyres can be used in a hook less rim if the pressure is low. Road tubeless, that's where it gets fun.