The flat Schwalbe blue levers are gods at getting tight 23-28mm tyres on.
+1. these things are unbreakable
I'm confident I could get the tyre on, it'd be getting it off again that'd be the issue!
It took 2 levers and a lot of swearing to get the one side of the Ribmo that I'd put on back off.
I use a Crankbrothers tool to get them off without bashing your knuckles and a Koolstop to get any tyre on without Popeyes's fingers. Neither are cheap but make any tyre easy.
That's the joy of them, they have a little hooked end for the rim or tyre to work a tight tyre on or off. It's the purchase with this hooked end that initially grabs the edge of the tyre. Pop one in, let it grab under the tyre edge (don't lift it yet) then do the same 10cm further up the rim from it. Lever them both together. My comment wasn't replying to yours as such, just wanted to add it to the thread, but if you haven't tried them I'd say do. They are tough too as Platypus says. If they wouldn't work then I reckon you are in the realms of metal levers, then it isn't worth it at that stage.
I had another shot yesterday and while I know there are tight rims and tight tyres and tight combinations of rims and tyres that might not be tight on other rims/tyres, that rim I have just ain't cricket.
I'd say that in my experience of tight tyres/rims you start to run into trouble when there's around 1/8 of the tyre not on the rim, you know, that's the kind of point where you put it on at one side and it's coming off at the other. With that Exal rim it's over 1/4 of the tyre not on the rim and it's at that point. It was consistently like that with about 5 different tyres.
I tried using a toe strap to hold the bead in and it still popped off as I worked the other side on. I snapped a plastic Pedros lever so moved onto the big motorcycle type size metal Park ones I have but they weren't much help.
I actually stopped short of fully fitting a tyre because I'm convinced that had I fit it, I wouldn't have gotten it back off without destroying or at least damaging it.
I guess I don't have any recourse with the seller on ebay. They'll probably just say I'm trying bad combos but seriously, it's beyond that.
Watching this vid changed my life. No problems fitting tight tyres on tight rims no more.
The trick is pushing the wirebead in as deep as possible. This gives enough wiggle room to get the other side on.
The problem with the rim I have is that there’s no deep place to push the bead to. It’s very flat internally.
Ive bled and cried putting tyres on before, but never been defeated, until today.
I cannot even get the FIRST half of my specialized roubaix tyre over my rim. I may have to send them back.
Oh good. I've got a pair to do too. So looking forward to that now.
Challenge accepted. Bring them over, cross my palms with cans of silver containing ale and I will show you your tyre's future.
I rode the 25/28s last winter, loads of miles, and only 1 puncture. Still going strong on my gf’s bike, so thought I’d get some more.
Got some of the 30/32s this time and I’m getting nowhere with them…. Not even close.
If you’re anywhere near E5 I’d happily do so…
Make it W5 and you're on. If you're still struggling next week when I actually feel like riding again I can swing by :)
I’m time poor this week otherwise I’d maybe have actually ridden to you just to see this sourcery.
If i haven’t got them on by next week I’ll have destroyed all my bikes in a fit of rage and you’ll be able to see black smoke rising over London from my tyre bonfire.
I do this on a weekly basis. Everyone thinks I wear stuff out because I ride a bit but it's actually because I just destroy it trying to get it to work in the first fucking place.
I do need to get over that way one day, because I want to ride the North London Dirt routes. But it probably won't be too soon. I need to convince the missus to ride some more dirt.
On that note I signed up and paid for NLD the last two years, and missed both of them.
Haha sounds like me and any audax I've ever entered that's further north than Euston Road.
I only heard of it after this year's had run, so I went and stole all the previous edition routes. Was going to use them to test out the gravel bikes and camping stuff before going to Scotland but we decided to just go to Scotland. Maybe I'll do a future edition properly.
Tried to get some schwalbe g ones onto the newer open pros. Lots of swearing and then a pinch flat. Going to try the standing on it method described above tomorrow but I'm concerned about then getting them off in the event of a puncture.
Do tyres stretch at all once on?
The rims have tubeless tape, should I remove this and fit regular rim tape as I'm running tubes for now?
Managed to get a tyre on today. Couldn't get the standing method to work but Pedros tyre lever just did it. Next issue is that the tyre is so tight it's not sitting properly in the rim. I've deflated and inflated a few times but in places the tyre bead is not in the rim hook. Rotating the wheel the tyre is all over the place. Hard to photo.
I have this issue on my LB rims for some reason. I tend to just ride them and they seat themselves… dunno how safe that is…
as @PhilDAS says - mix some fairy liquid with a little water and use a sponge to coat the bead of the tyre and the inside of the rim. then pump it up and the liquid should help the bead pop.
just be careful not to pump it up too hard until it's dry or the tyre can pop off the rim. but if it's super tight that's probably not an issue
Thanks @PhilDAS @fredtc
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