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• #52
he'll just have a media line 'i've put 400 new police out on the street by getting rid of marketing budget' blah blah blah.... politicians are practiced at answer such questions.
400 is only 12 police officer per boroughs (32), it's barely enough!
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• #53
ahhh, i know which one now. it's been years since i bought anything more than a beigel from brick lane, i didn't know that bit was still open.
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• #54
400 is only 12 police officer per boroughs (32), it's barely enough!
too true - but it is headline stat that will answer/defer the question. he may also drop in secure cycle parking (new facility opening at london bridge soon). he'll lso probably change the topic to mention over completely underelated policies 'cycle hire'...etc
personally i don't think more cops are the answer is to be more multi-cultural and adopt islamic law, where if you steel you get your hands chopped off. done.
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• #55
do you get your hands back if you are falsely accused
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• #56
if anyone is about, i'm gonna be down for about 9. unradical.
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• #57
i think it is better to organise big ride on a week day - from scotland yard to city hall - fucking up all the traffic. as politicians hate it and it will get all over the media. taxi drivers do it all the time and they get what ever they want.
Tis a good idea. I fear apathy will get in the way though.
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• #58
If they increased the sentences for handling stolen goods it would deter more people from buying deals that are too good to be true. Eradicate the market, eradicate the crime.
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• #59
If they increased the sentences for handling stolen goods it would deter more people from buying deals that are too good to be true. Eradicate the market, eradicate the crime.
I think if policing is more effective and efficient and they caught and convicted more people, then it would deter people also. Sentencing and punishment is useless without the people to inforce it.
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• #60
It's a very circular argument
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• #61
The SOCO bloke that dusted my place when my bike was nicked said that even if he gets really good prints the CPO just say "oh those prints could be months old, from when the bike was in the street" and similar. There is little or no chance of anyone going to court, anyone getting convicted, and therefore anyone ever being deterred.
I wish politicians would acknowlege that this is the case, and allow us to dispense our own vigilante justice. If we can get 150 people together to ride about in tweed then surely we and Moving Target can get 150 people to go mob-handed into brick lane market and smash the thieves, fences and fuckers in vans with bolt-croppers up every week until the thieves learn - you fuck with us, we fuck with you big style.
and that concludes my internet hard-man act for today. In reality I'm not even going down to find my own bike tomorrow. I have asked the market officers to do it for me.
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• #62
If they increased the sentences for handling stolen goods it would deter more people from buying deals that are too good to be true. Eradicate the market, eradicate the crime.
that what happen during the 1750, they've been increasing punishment for every crime, till they react to the point that you'd get the death penalty for stealing an apple.
Until when the introduction of the "bobby" policemen, the crime rate dramatically drop, the death penalty in America doesn't stop people murdering other people, it will only reduced if they think they're likely to get caught, regardless of the punishment.
at least that my theory.
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• #63
Comparing murder and low-level theft is ridiculous.
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• #64
Comparing murder and low-level theft is ridiculous.
Unless it's your 'spok, in which case murder is the appropriate sentence for the thief.
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• #65
Comparing murder and low-level theft is ridiculous.
it was merely an example, not a comparison, in 1750 you can get the death penalty for stealing something mundane as an apple, yet people still steal them (even thought it was in the 1750) because they rarely get caught for it, that's the point I'm making.
punishment mean nothing if they don't get caught for it.
Sentencing and punishment is useless without the people to inforce it.
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• #66
we should try catch out a thief in the act, gang of us beat the fuck outta him, chain him to a lamp post, gaffa his hands and face and spray paint him. im 100 percent up for this, im fucking serious.
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• #67
IN!
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- Pistanator
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• #68
i'm in
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• #69
'I'M A BIKE THIEF, HIT ME' sprayed on his chest
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• #70
I'm well up for it, could do it once a week.....more than happy to use one of my bikes as bait
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• #71
definitely in, actually I rather just capture him, then tie him against a lamp post, gagged with "I'M A BIKE THEFT" written on him.
the last thing we want is to get arrested for attempt assault.
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• #72
I hope you all go to jail
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• #73
where is a good honey trap location?
bearing in mind you don't want something serious to happen like the thief stabbing someone with a knive as self defence as a mob of people grab him to tag him!
saying this though i'd be in if no violence was used. maybe we could film it for the courts?
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• #74
outside half the pubs in dalston
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• #75
im in def, i say we batter the fucking cunt though
edscoble
RckStdy
slaytanic1
Bernhard
bq
Velocio
Pistanator
dicki
gormley
nosferatu
type '68 Sclater St London"
into google maps
and right next to the marker is the square, you cans see all the stalls
its really easy find