Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • My partner wants to lease a car though her work scheme .

    The scheme pays for Insurance , VED, servicing and parts . So beyond the monthly payment, all she has to pay for is fuel . If the car has an NGC rating of <30 Her work pays £1800 p/a towards the rental costs . If the car is full electric they pay £2000 p/a. So she wants to take advantage of this and get a car wit a low NCG rating .

    What she wants:

    • total cost as low as possible . I.e. monthly rental charge + BIK + fuel/electricity
    • if electric, a decent range as there will be some long journeys to rural places
    • practical. space for shopping etc. Space for 2 adults and a child. Will occasionally have to seat 5
    • comfy, and can be driven comfortably on motorways. Car will be driven day to day in a city

    She's not overly fussed about brands or image .

    So two questions : What should she get? And where can she find a list of NGC ratings ?

    Honda Jazz seems to tick every box, but I can't find an NGC figure for the current model

  • Doesn't Next Green Car website have the Jazz listed? I guess this is a salary sacrifice scheme through work

  • Couldn't see the current 1.5 i-mmd model when searching there. And yes, it's a salary sacrifice scheme

  • I’d work backwards from the hardest thing on your list, which is to seat five - five adults? Four adults and a child seat or some combination of these? You can get five people in a super mini but a long trip to somewhere rural is going to be miserable- but if it’s five people round then corner and back then don’t worry about it.

  • Four adults and a child. No child seat. Short trips only . Long journeys will only be 2 adults and a child . Seating five is the least important of all the criteria , which opens up options a fair bit

  • Personally I’d go Leaf or Zoe if you want lowest overall cost. Maybe a Kia eNiro as something that’s a bit bigger.

    Honestly would avoid anything petrol or hybrid.

  • Saw this today. Quite nice I guess.


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  • ^ not a real 250 obvs

    Some kind of Z3 conversion

  • Zoe is a good shout, though rental costs are a fair bit higher than many hybrids . In theory she could run a plug in hybrid electric only weekdays then have petrol backup for longer journeys . Any particular reason you'd avoid a hybrid?

  • Quality French bodywork repairs here, using both cardboard and parcel tape


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  • 6My 335i E30 Touring is taking forever to go back together since the respray , mainly because the pistons were on back order from November until July, now the MLS headgasket is two weeks overdue but it has given me time do do so many other bits I might not have bothered with, a fortnight a go I managed to get it on the ramp at my mates garage drop the rear axle and fuel tank to treat the surface rust patches and underseal it, started replacing the front to rear fuel & brake pipes. :)
    Cleaned of the surface rust areas , treated the metal with Jenolite and then a coat of Por-15 before undersealing the underneath with Tera Shutz

    Before

    After

    Ready for brake and fuel lines now.

  • That is bang tidy.

  • Thank you @Aroogah here is the Flickr album that has the story so far since purchase in 2015 :)

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/fixedwheelnut/albums/72157658921371883

  • a coat of Por-15

    Good choice. Great stuff. Underside's looking very tidy.

  • Love to see it.

    Edit: the Flickr album is great. Bloody hell you’ve put some graft in.

  • Thanks @Nef I keep meaning to roughly work out how many hours , just since I got it back from the bodyshop pretty much most of my four days off between shift patterns that are week days I have been working on it :)

  • Haha I was there, had a great time lugging a whingeing child around, loved this, the South African Capri Perana


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  • Awesome S4 Esprit too


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  • Nice. It’s only a 20 min walk up the road for me so we were there from around 10.15 but popped home for the little ones lunch.

    Saw the esprit arrive. Looked ace.

    My favourite (unpictured) was the grey Charger. Looked mean.

  • I’m guessing you’ve been to Classics on the Common in Harpenden? That’s not far from you. Easily the best and most varied free car thing I’ve been to.

    In other news saw two Yetis in the car park

    #yetiwatch

  • Don't. Will be a bad idea.

  • Never heard of it. Looks like it’s done this year but will keep an eye on dates for next year.

  • Loving the work. Stand by the don't work out the hours spent.

    Not to come across as an arse, not sure of the modern Jenolite. Not sure of the POR15, as an under-sealer but great as a fuel tank liner ;) Last job I did for me, I soda blasted the underside of the car, then replacing the thin areas of metal. There were a lot of thin areas.

    Prefer cold galvinizing spray (with a high zinc contenct) then bilt hamber hydrate 80 after. This has made the floor of a MK1 cortina estate used all year round and not garaged for the last decade. Even lived by the seaside for 8 of the last 10.

  • @lynx All the heavy rust has been cut out and new metal in, including inner and outer sills, the patches on the underside were just surface rust, ground back to bare metal, then treated with jenolite and Por-15 only on those patches, the Tera Shultz was the underseal used over everything.

  • Hey, I'm a follower of yours. I'm just talking about what I did. My only experience with POR15 is a fuel tank liner. One that did not have an issue with ethanol in fuel. But bloody expensive to do a floor.

    Am just talking, not used shultz in years, and then it wasn't that good. But the the areas were rarely preprepared correctly, so stone chips effected the areas. Started to use this https://bilthamber.com/product/epoxy-mastic/

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