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  • Queensbury Rules

  • You called it. The pugilists of the 17th century also focused on sword and staff techniques, not unlike the Dutch fencing schools of the time. -Didn’t finish this thought, not sure where I was going with it.

    @Stonehedge you’re probably right that boxing is the closest thing, but it’s not a very complete fighting system. I doubt the SAS are taught to just punch above the waist, so why hasn’t someone started their own thing?

  • Shin kicking, obvs

  • Glasgow kiss, grab shirt with kack hand, tuck in chin, windmill good hand, bite ear.

  • Glasgow kiss, grab shirt with kack hand, tuck in chin, windmill good hand, bite ear.

    @Rich_G

  • I once worked with a guy, the end of whose nose had been bitten off following said procedure..

  • Where’s the Gentleman’s Approach to Thuggery?

    We call it Public Schools.

  • Yeah was speaking to a mate who's been doing that for a few years now said it's very good hope now restrictions are lifting classes may be available. 👍

  • I've had to rescue a few bees from the pool we set up in the garden last week, but I didn't risk a limb for them. Taking it a bit far.

  • We had Catch Wrestling which could of rivalled BJJ but weirdly it morphed into pro wrestling but people like Josh Barnett in MMA still list themselves as a catch wrestler
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_wres­tling

  • I just misread you’d rescued a few beers

  • That too.


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  • Oof. Paddling Pool Ciders. Mmmmmmm

  • Don't they just use a combo of whatever is deemed as the best of the time?

    My guess is that it's a function of having such a long standing professional army. The eg you cited are all fairly new States (although I may be ignorant as to how much of the Russian Imperial army carried through to the USSR). See France as well.

    For eg KM, was basically down to one Slovak guy (I think). When you have a new State that's building itself there is the scope for adopting new and radical ideas - a bit like a start up Vs. established multinationals.

  • Don't they just use a combo of whatever is deemed as the best of the time?

    I’m sure they do, as do most other countries, but hand-to-hand fighting has been broadly the same for thousands of years now: use your body to hurt someone, now use this rock, this stick, this pointy stick, a knife, sword…

    For centuries the British Empire fought adversaries and made allies around the world, and definitely had battles end up close and personal, so where’s the corpus of knowledge?

    I’ve only taken the briefest instruction on Sambo, but iirc quite a few of its techniques are derived from fighting in the Middle Ages (particularly the parts where you drop the other chap on his head). Jiujitsu was developed as an unarmed technique against swordsmen in Japan. Countless other effective fighting systems from the Aztecs, Incas, etc., have been erased from history, but did they disappear or were they just absorbed ?

    For eg KM, was basically down to one Slovak guy (I think)

    Hungarian, but he’s given too much credit, eg, his father was a police chief who trained him to be a boxing and jiujitsu champ. That sort of knowledge is generational, especially back before modern communications and readily available medical treatment.

    To clarify, I do think Imi was extraordinary. Man defended his neighbourhood from nazi gangs as a teenager and developed an entire combat style to quickly teach others. Violence and especially gang violence is terrible and not worth glorifying, but that guy was unique.

  • There's a long-silent thread whose title makes it a perfect home to move all this into, really. Or go way out on a limb and start a new one, radical as that may sound.

  • pushing back against what they saw as an attempt to bounce (borisTosser) into the tax rise, against the Tories’ manifesto pledge.

    Tories in (National insurance rise to pay for social care provision) “can’t break our promises” shocker. Venal cnuts gonna be etc.

  • For centuries the British Empire fought adversaries and made allies around the world, and definitely had battles end up close and personal, so where’s the corpus of knowledge?

    'Have better weaponry'

  • Have we had this? British Embassy handing out placards at Hungarian Pride
    https://mobile.twitter.com/adamparsons/s­tatus/1418926175179743235
    Weird blend of patriotism and pissing off the Hungarian government. I wonder where it was approved.

  • Apologies for derailing the thread.

  • And the rise “would fall on younger taxpayers priced out of the housing market.”
    Er, how is one contingent on the other?

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