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  • I’m not saying Bashir acted entirely properly but it’s pretty clear from the Dyson report that he believes Diana would have given the interview regardless.

    It’s time the Royal family stopped blaming everyone else for the unhappiness they’ve healed on themselves by being an inherently nasty bunch.

  • If I was a cynical type, I'd think the government is behind the harping on about this to further harm the reputation of the BBC.

  • I'd think the government is behind the harping on about this to further harm the reputation of the BBC

    After deliberately delaying release of police/media corruption in the Daniel Morgan report because they may have had advance briefing about the timing of this BBC report also? I don't know what you mean...

  • Allegedly

    (I also ought to refresh the page before replying, repeating what has been said before!)

  • Over two decades after the events - as if wholesale change hasn't already happened in that time, even in a behemoth like the BBC...

  • Priti Patel went to Murdoch's wedding. She's hardly going to facilitate the release of a report that shows that News International had The Met in their pocket.

  • If I didn't make myself clear before, I completely agree.

    This is a case of two birds with one stone for them, isn't it?

  • Because it's scumbag corrupt Met officers taking bribes there are interesting links between the officers involved in the murders of both Morgan and Stephen Lawrence.

  • There was a good documentary about the the links between both cases. Can't rember who did it both cases stink of couruption.

  • Attorney for Proud Boys who were at the Capitol Riot bases his defence on the grounds that they are all morons. As a result, one of the Proud Boys asks to be disassociated from his co-defendants

    A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people. These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.

    But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. Fuck, they were subjected to four-plus years of goddamn propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since fucking Hitler.

    Hard not to laugh. I'm not even trying.

  • Robert Fisk
    The great war for civilisation

  • I’m not saying Bashir acted entirely properly but it’s pretty clear from the Dyson report that he believes Diana would have given the interview regardless.

    Isn't this just the latest salvo in the Tories privatising the BBC? I doubt they care about Diana one way or another. When Priti Patel acts all serious and pretends to be 'concerned', you know she's being sanctimonious and hypocritical.

    It’s time the Royal family stopped blaming everyone else for the unhappiness they’ve healed on themselves by being an inherently nasty bunch.

    Hmmm ... (my emphasis) :)

  • I can't help with books, but among the dozens of articles I've read about it recently, this one stood out:

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/ma­y/18/a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refug­ee-return

  • The current Tory MPs and ministers who are outraged about the BBC story will probably not bother to mention that Lord Hall was appointed by a Tory Prime Minster, and that James Harding, who rehired Bashir, was an ex-editor of Murdoch's The Times and constant critic of the BBC and today refused to say if he discussed the decision with Hall. Perhaps some of the lies and incompetence are more recent than they would like.

  • A good book but Fisk not entirely balanced re Israel.

    From wikipedia

    *Fisk was known for his criticism of the foreign policy of the United States, particularly their involvement in the wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East.[2] He was consistently critical of Israel, labelling some of the country's actions against Palestinians as "war crimes".[63] One of his beliefs was that he should report events from the point of view of the victim rather than those in authority.[64][65] The Times newspaper, in its November 2020 obituary of Fisk, said that he had developed a "visceral dislike of the Israeli government and its allies" following his coverage of the Sabra and Shatila massacre, alleging that this had made Fisk biased and "unable to provide a dispassionate account of events and their context".[64] David Pryce-Jones, writing in The Spectator in 2003, said that Fisk was guilty of "hysteria and distortion" in his coverage of Middle Eastern topics. The Independent, for whom he wrote between 1989 and his death, praised him as being "renowned for his courage in questioning official narratives from governments".[66]

    The BBC's Jeremy Bowen also praised him following his death and noted the controversy Fisk drew for his "sharp criticism of the US and Israel, and of Western foreign policy". Bowen described himself as an admirer who would miss Fisk's "guts and his appetite for the fight".[63] Fisk dismissed the controversy related to his reporting in Syria, saying that he was "writing only what he saw and heard".[67] His ex-wife Lara Marlowe took exception to the frequent use of the adjective 'controversial' in obituaries: he was a prolific non-conformist in the world of journalism, whose judgments avoided jumping on the bandwagon and, in her experience, had been "intuitive, rapid, ... and invariably right".[68]

    Similarly, Patrick Cockburn, responding to criticisms raised in obituaries said "Derring-do in times of war usually gets good notices from the press and from public opinion, but moral endurance is a much rarer commodity, when the plaudits are replaced by abuse, often from people who see a world divided between devils and angels and denounce anybody reporting less than angelic behaviour on the part of the latter for being secret sympathisers with the devil. Real journalism is a simple business, but exceptionally difficult to do well. Its purpose is to find out significant news as fast as possible, disregard all efforts by governments, armies and media to suppress it, and pass that information on to the public so they can better judge what is happening in the world around them. This is what Robert did and did it better than anybody else."[69]t*

  • The BBC was effectively privatised under Birt with the requirements to buy programs from outside producers, and the focus on Worldwide.

    The Dyson report shows evidence of a cover up a la Saville. No heads rolled over the Saville enquiry and none will roll over Dyson.

    The BBC is funded with what is effectively a regressive tax with little scrutiny on how it is spent. Any notion of Reith influenced idealism ended the day Eastenders was commissioned.

    The lack of accountability that the Saville enquiry exposed is mirrored by the behaviour of the talent where the likes of Lineker and Munchetty treat their internal code of conduct with contempt.

    Thankfully the BBC is rapidly becoming completely irrelevant. My children seldom watch or listen to any of their products. I'd be surprised if either of them ever needs to buy a TV licence.

  • Any notion of Reith influenced idealism ended the day Eastenders was commissioned.

    "Educate, inform, entertain." EastEnders performs at least two of those functions and your comment sounds really rather snobbish.

  • Elitist would be more accurate.

    Does Eastenders perform any of the 3Es? The hip hop Mitchell Brothers fulfil all three but Grant and Phil?

  • Fisk not entirely balanced re Israel.

    Because Wikipedia says so? In fact, the section you quote just says that The Times obituarist said so.

    Wikipedia has a lot of problems with editors not showing proper objectivity, but the section you quote does a better job than you did.

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